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I'm just thankful I don't live down there where they land, once they do a runner lord knows where they go.
Sure as eggs are eggs, those that are taken through the checking system, some will end up here courtesy of a Government 'hand out' to the council to help provide for them.
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Can you expand on your findings. Do you mean they are gifted everything? Or they miraculously gain their stability and run off in to the sunset?Originally posted by frogmiller View PostIf anyone knows anyone that works at Border Control in Sheffield ask them what they see. Especially the handicapped ones that recover once they leave the buildings.Last edited by Brin; 05-07-2025, 08:53 PM.
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Nailed it, Yak. It's the Kalergi Plan unfolding in real time.Originally posted by Yak View PostThis government has no intentions of stopping the boats. It?s a planned invasion.
If you put yourself in the position of the people who are orchestrating this you can see that it's all been staged.
Utter a single word of discomfort and you're instantly labelled a Far Right waycist.
I don't care about the nationalities nor the hue of the skin of those incoming. What I resent is the deceit of the orchestrators together with their sock puppets. Liars all.
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Why would the recent governments be happy to allow this situation? Seems to cause a lot of political damage to me, how is Starmer, and those before them gaining from it?Originally posted by Eternal Optimist View PostNailed it, Yak. It's the Kalergi Plan unfolding in real time.
If you put yourself in the position of the people who are orchestrating this you can see that it's all been staged.
Utter a single word of discomfort and you're instantly labelled a Far Right waycist.
I don't care about the nationalities nor the hue of the skin of those incoming. What I resent is the deceit of the orchestrators together with their sock puppets. Liars all.
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Great question. The previous governments all chose to stop the boats or smash the gangs.none of them have.Originally posted by ragingpup View PostWhy would the recent governments be happy to allow this situation? Seems to cause a lot of political damage to me, how is Starmer, and those before them gaining from it?
The leaders have been nothing but puppets in a game played in front of our eyes.
The European governments have been the same. The Americans under the democrats were the same. There are a few that haven?t allowed it to happen and they have been fined large sums of money.
Political damage to a party isn?t the same as a political leader being able to make millions after they leave office.
It?s shameful. It?s not the political set up that we grew up with!
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Or it could be that we have millions of displaced people coming throughout Europe, many of whom would risk their lives to get to a place where they want to claim asylum and it might be that it is simply difficult to stop that flow of people without military force which is currently against international law. Governments representing their people them have very difficult decisions in acting under that law. Some parties would like to suggest using military force and breaking international laws, and have stood for elections across Europe but as yet, haven't achieved power as the majority of people haven't voted for them on the back of those policies (except Hungary? ).Originally posted by frogmiller View PostGreat question. The previous governments all chose to stop the boats or smash the gangs.none of them have.
The leaders have been nothing but puppets in a game played in front of our eyes.
The European governments have been the same. The Americans under the democrats were the same. There are a few that haven?t allowed it to happen and they have been fined large sums of money.
Political damage to a party isn?t the same as a political leader being able to make millions after they leave office.
It?s shameful. It?s not the political set up that we grew up with!
So conservatives and now Labour have never had the mandate from their people sufficient enough to act on such suggestions. I suspect that if Farage is looking likely to seriously challenge there will be enough Labour, lib dems, tory and all others that will tactically vote to stop them as currently I think the majority of people recognise the complexity of the situation and wouldn't have the appetite for extreme solutions such as escalating a military action against France etc which is where we'd end up on acting without international consent.
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Is rioting and burning down asylum centres considered a mandate to do something?Originally posted by ragingpup View PostOr it could be that we have millions of displaced people coming throughout Europe, many of whom would risk their lives to get to a place where they want to claim asylum and it might be that it is simply difficult to stop that flow of people without military force which is currently against international law. Governments representing their people them have very difficult decisions in acting under that law. Some parties would like to suggest using military force and breaking international laws, and have stood for elections across Europe but as yet, haven't achieved power as the majority of people haven't voted for them on the back of those policies (except Hungary? ).
So conservatives and now Labour have never had the mandate from their people sufficient enough to act on such suggestions. I suspect that if Farage is looking likely to seriously challenge there will be enough Labour, lib dems, tory and all others that will tactically vote to stop them as currently I think the majority of people recognise the complexity of the situation and wouldn't have the appetite for extreme solutions such as escalating a military action against France etc which is where we'd end up on acting without international consent.
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I wonder how complex the issue would be if we stopped the benefits and put them all in tents rather than hotels. Maybe stop giving the mobile phones and lap top, driving lessons etc. I think it would clear up the complexity pretty quickly.Originally posted by ragingpup View PostOr it could be that we have millions of displaced people coming throughout Europe, many of whom would risk their lives to get to a place where they want to claim asylum and it might be that it is simply difficult to stop that flow of people without military force which is currently against international law. Governments representing their people them have very difficult decisions in acting under that law. Some parties would like to suggest using military force and breaking international laws, and have stood for elections across Europe but as yet, haven't achieved power as the majority of people haven't voted for them on the back of those policies (except Hungary? ).
So conservatives and now Labour have never had the mandate from their people sufficient enough to act on such suggestions. I suspect that if Farage is looking likely to seriously challenge there will be enough Labour, lib dems, tory and all others that will tactically vote to stop them as currently I think the majority of people recognise the complexity of the situation and wouldn't have the appetite for extreme solutions such as escalating a military action against France etc which is where we'd end up on acting without international consent.
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