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[NorthWestCorner]

It was their judgement upon whether he held the intent required to prove the charge that was brought against him.

If you think that you or the Twitter crew are in a better position than to make that judgement then so be it. I disagree.

You disagreement is comforting.

Intent? I mean, I am sure you are legal correct but he knew what he was saying, in the same way as that Lucy Connolly did.

Again, your sort will be glowing from this because of the colour of his skin. Perhaps we should start some sort of foundation?

[howdydoo]

Thanks, raging.

I forgot to deal with the jury composition point and agree with what you have said.

You and Raging can continue to pat each other on the back until the cows come home.

The is party political system is changing and I think our legal system will come into disrepute.

The electorate hasn't voted for what this country is turning into. If you guys don't believe there's anything to worry about, fair enough.

Not going to fall out over it. You patently believe everyone else is stupid or an extreme racist.

[millersrus]

It’s amazing how some posters on here will challenge people’s perceptions or opinions as gullible or misinformed.
Yet when someone posts real events eg pockets post. Silence. I wonder why ?
It’s easier to dismiss people as far right etc but when presented with a sad situation of two tier examples nothing just bypass and wait to pounce in the next post that can be dismissed.

I think they call it controlling the narrative, it?s what they do.

[ragingpup]

You and Raging can continue to pat each other on the back until the cows come home.

The is party political system is changing and I think our legal system will come into disrepute.

The electorate hasn't voted for what this country is turning into. If you guys don't believe there's anything to worry about, fair enough.

Not going to fall out over it. You patently believe everyone else is stupid or an extreme racist.

I haven't called anyone racist or stupid howdy. Just pointing out the fact that online sites are producing content that contain blatant, blatant lies and distortions that are very easy to track and show are lies and distortions but despite that, people are watching/reading and believing/ sharing and don't even care when the lies and distortions are pointed out. I don't know if you call that thick or racist or whatever. It's just happening.

[Pocket rocket]

I haven't called anyone racist or stupid howdy. Just pointing out the fact that online sites are producing content that contain blatant, blatant lies and distortions that are very easy to track and show are lies and distortions but despite that, people are watching/reading and believing/ sharing and don't even care when the lies and distortions are pointed out. I don't know if you call that thick or racist or whatever. It's just happening.

Agreed but the government has done everything you have stated and people will still back them, vote for them. Make that make sense Raging.

[ragingpup]

I think they call it controlling the narrative, it?s what they do.

It's really not. It's called not just swallowing anecdotal statements from strangers on message boards as being real and factual, just because its what you want to believe.

[Pocket rocket]

It's really not. It's called not just swallowing anecdotal statements from strangers on message boards as being real and factual, just because its what you want to believe.

So I?m lying raging ?

[ragingpup]

Agreed but the government has done everything you have stated and people will still back them, vote for them. Make that make sense Raging.

Can you name me any government that hasn't distorted and swerved Pocket? Farage has always done the same to try and meet his aims. Why single Labour out?

Labour's single biggest challenge though is much more about making a tangible difference to cost of living and NHS and docs appointments. Those were the central reason why people went for them as opposed to tories and reform. If they don't make this difference, then by all means give Farage or the new left wing party have a go. But bearing in mind that we've already had a taste of Farage economics under Truss. How did that go?

[ragingpup]

So I?m lying raging ?

I've no idea Pocket. I don't know you. That's the point.

[Pocket rocket]

Can you name me any government that hasn't distorted and swerved Pocket? Farage has always done the same to try and meet his aims. Why single Labour out?

Labour's single biggest challenge though is much more about making a tangible difference to cost of living and NHS and docs appointments. Those were the central reason why people went for them as opposed to tories and reform. If they don't make this difference, then by all means give Farage or the new left wing party have a go. But bearing in mind that we've already had a taste of Farage economics under Truss. How did that go?

There’s swerving and there’s bare faced lying. Boris lied but this government has taken it up a new level.
I worry about my grandchildren's future financially, ethically and their safety under this government.
I don’t vote so I’m no Tory or reform supporter but if I had to it wouldn’t be this lying hypocritical lot.

[Pocket rocket]

I've no idea Pocket. I don't know you. That's the point.

You don?t but I have better things to go than make stuff up for what purpose?
A good 5 or 6 posters on here know me and also know my family so they know it?s true.
Not everything is a conspiracy or attempt to distort the truth.

[ragingpup]

You don?t but I have better things to go than make stuff up for what purpose?
A good 5 or 6 posters on here know me and also know my family so they know it?s true.
Not everything is a conspiracy or attempt to distort the truth.

That may be so but surely you wouldn't just call an anecdote by someone on a message board 'real' without checking up on independent evidence? Would you? Maybe it's just me. Each to their own.

If true, that your family members are quitting due to crooked bosses that are demonstrably asking them to carry out orders that discriminate for and against different citizens they're paid to serve, they are sitting on a gold mine as large numbers of journos would give large dosh for that evidence.

[Pocket rocket]

That may be so but surely you wouldn't just call an anecdote by someone on a message board 'real' without checking up on independent evidence? Would you? Maybe it's just me. Each to their own.

If true, that your family members are quitting due to crooked bosses that are demonstrably asking them to carry out orders that discriminate for and against different citizens they're paid to serve, they are sitting on a gold mine as large numbers of journos would give large dosh for that evidence.

Journalists are already questioning it raging. It’s coming from the top but only if you want to see it.
Starmer and co have made it clear who their priorities are and the police etc are just following orders. That’s just how I see it but I’ll leave it there as I’ve no desire to get involved too much on this thread. I’m already wishing I hadn’t. 😃 on to football again. 👍

[Eternal Optimist]

...we've already had a taste of Farage economics under Truss. How did that go?

Clarification needed. Did you mean before the Deep State instructed the (independent) BoE to have a fire sale of Gilts, or after?

[howdydoo]

That may be so but surely you wouldn't just call an anecdote by someone on a message board 'real' without checking up on independent evidence? Would you? Maybe it's just me. Each to their own.

If true, that your family members are quitting due to crooked bosses that are demonstrably asking them to carry out orders that discriminate for and against different citizens they're paid to serve, they are sitting on a gold mine as large numbers of journos would give large dosh for that evidence.

I'm not so sure you and your mate on here, are going to sit on the right side of history. We can only wait and see.

Your use of 'if it happened' against Pocket suggests to me you believe you know best.

Not so sure if even the 'clever people' are being brainwashed here.

Are you, smart one?