Another Starmer Own Goal

[regis80]

That Polanski guy sounds reasonable, although I don?t know too much about him - bit skeptical about Green party in general, if they abandon some of their stricter green policies and not be too left - i may consider them. That just shows how little I know about them.

Other than that, only Andy Burnham I would consider voting for if he became labour leader.

Until then, we?ll have to put up with the asset stripping of the UK.

[boingy]

That Polanski guy sounds reasonable, although I don?t know too much about him - bit skeptical about Green party in general, if they abandon some of their stricter green policies and not be too left - i may consider them. That just shows how little I know about them.

Other than that, only Andy Burnham I would consider voting for if he became labour leader.

Until then, we?ll have to put up with the asset stripping of the UK.

Ive always felt the Green Party shouldnt be a party but a Government department within any elected Government. Theyre not interested in running the country. Its all about conservation which should be important whoever gets in.

[baggieal]

Ive always felt the Green Party shouldnt be a party but a Government department within any elected Government. Theyre not interested in running the country. It?s all about conservation which should be important whoever gets in.

Totally agree Boingy. As Regis said Andy Burnham seems a level headed guy but Starmer, Lammy, Cooper and Rayner are pathetic.

Never voted ever but I will next time and it will be Reform, The X for Reform will also be filled in on my 17 years olds form and lots of parents will do that, Something has to give with thousands entering daily and our own people like the homeless being first priority!

[regis80]

I pretty much agree with the points made by everyone here. But I still think some of you do get suckered into the far right rabbit hole and believe some of the spout they put out, we need to be discussing real stats and not those from untrustworthy outlets. I myself can get caught up in it and i’m honest enough to admit.

The other day I said I was concerned about Farage and private equity and we could be facing. Well i have sort of changed my stance as he’s having a discussion about this on GB news (somehow came on my feed, i’ll never subscribe to them). Anyway Here’s the link:

https://youtu.be/G7jaiYrNBMM?si=yqdRD8iJ_WGbf8V5

I’ll give him credit talking about it, if he tackles it then fair play. But will he?

[regis80]

Geez is websites we?re dysfunctional alcoholic, this site would be it. I will have a new message board up soon.

[baggieal]

Talking about our corrupt society and donors - look no further than Lord Ali. A nice paid apartment so Junior Tool Makers Son could study in peace! Lord Justice Bean who is 71 FFS sake over turning the Bell Hotel verdict and a Labour supporter. I thought we lived in a democratic country! Now I know why Lucy Connolly received such a wicked sentence compared to rapes!

Poor school children this week having to walk past that Bell Hotel and some call protesting mothers Far Right. Welcome to the loony house!

[regis80]

Talking about our corrupt society and donors - look no further than Lord Ali. A nice paid apartment so Junior Tool Makers Son could study in peace! Lord Justice Bean who is 71 FFS sake over turning the Bell Hotel verdict and a Labour supporter. I thought we lived in a democratic country! Now I know why Lucy Connolly received such a wicked sentence compared to rapes!

Poor school children this week having to walk past that Bell Hotel and some call protesting mothers Far Right. Welcome to the loony house!

You’d think any prime minister with an ounce of wisdom would fast track those asylum seekers from that very hotel.. would process their claims, reject or accept.. whatever and be done with, or inform the public a date when they’ll be gone- nope no chance. Begs the question, is this deliberate? I know the backlog was created by previous government but the fact they went to court to fight it - lost for words. It doesn’t quite help their image.. then makes you wonder all these years they claim tories helping the rich.. they surely must be too? Or why else would be allowed to happen? small price for current gov to pay.

[baggieal]

You’d think any prime minister with an ounce of wisdom would fast track those asylum seekers from that very hotel.. would process their claims, reject or accept.. whatever and be done with, or inform the public a date when they’ll be gone- nope no chance. Begs the question, is this deliberate? I know the backlog was created by previous government but the fact they went to court to fight it - lost for words. It doesn’t quite help their image.. then makes you wonder all these years they claim tories helping the rich.. they surely must be too? Or why else would be allowed to happen? small price for current gov to pay.

Totally agree Regis. Family member a bit of do gooder and said it all - who is advising this thick bunch as overturning that judgement just means thousands more going to Reform. There?s a court case now with a resident who assaulted a 14 year old girl and wanted to give her a baby. God forbid with the previous judgement overturned and schools back this week - can you imagine if another school girl gets assaulted!

I know Boris was a clown but Starmer, Cooper, Rayner and Lammy are absolute clowns and make this country a complete laughing stock.

For me the fact these illegals get priority over our homeless is absolutely disgusting! Many would love three healthy meals a day in a comfy hotel with laundry and mod cons all paid!

[WBA123]

Its ironic that the guy responsible for influencing us to leave a trading union that now costs us 100bn per year is leading in the polls.

We love voting for someone or something that will make us poorer. Reform are a financial basket case.

[Omegstrat6]

You’d think any prime minister with an ounce of wisdom would fast track those asylum seekers from that very hotel.. would process their claims, reject or accept.. whatever and be done with, or inform the public a date when they’ll be gone- nope no chance. Begs the question, is this deliberate? I know the backlog was created by previous government but the fact they went to court to fight it - lost for words. It doesn’t quite help their image.. then makes you wonder all these years they claim tories helping the rich.. they surely must be too? Or why else would be allowed to happen? small price for current gov to pay.

Totally agree that Starmer (yet again!) tone deaf to genuine public concerns but fighting to over turn the decision was always going to happen. If they hadn't have done so it surely would have opened to door to similar demands on a raft of other hotels used for asylum seekers and they have very limited alternatives as to where to house them pending processing. The moot point is more surely the lack of control/ security at these hotels?

[baggieal]

Totally agree that Starmer (yet again!) tone deaf to genuine public concerns but fighting to over turn the decision was always going to happen. If they hadn't have done so it surely would have opened to door to similar demands on a raft of other hotels used for asylum seekers and they have very limited alternatives as to where to house them pending processing. The moot point is more surely the lack of control/ security at these hotels?

The safety of the communities should be number 1 priority. I can?t see why they were not housed in tents in disused army barracks/sites which would stop them entering local communities. A tent and hot food served from a shelter within a site is more than our homeless receive.

To blame Farage for this is laughable as the influx of illegals has nothing to do with Brexit as they are from outside the EU. Different EU leaders have different ways of dealing with them - look how Greece and Italy are dealing with them compared to say France where Macron is another liberal. We have many German friends and since the open day policy of Merkel - they have massively tightened up with their new government.

It?s not just about illegals some will say! Not strictly true because when taxes go up in October many will look at the billions wasted with resentment. Everything is over stretched from the NHS to Councils and many know the reasons why.

Rylan Clark was bang on - 100% we need more legal immigration ie doctors, engineers etc but the huge amount of illegals is causing huge huge problems.