Any Thoughts on Changes for Watford?

[baggieal]

Any thoughts on changes? For me I would put Campbell and Styles on the bench and then you have Taylor, Gilchrist and Grant to consider. Collyer seemed nervous and Price ( despite the fantastic goal ) has been poor of late. Need to start Mikey and Maja for sure.

I hope Mason does not revert to a defensive and cautious line up again with the likes of Wallace and Heggebo starting. Watford are there for the taking although Ipswich will be tough!

[bordering]

Any thoughts on changes? For me I would put Campbell and Styles on the bench and then you have Taylor, Gilchrist and Grant to consider. Collyer seemed nervous and Price ( despite the fantastic goal ) has been poor of late. Need to start Mikey and Maja for sure.

I hope Mason does not revert to a defensive and cautious line up again with the likes of Wallace and Heggebo starting. Watford are there for the taking although Ipswich will be tough!

Mason will go defensive Wallace , Heggebo - hang on to 0-0 and hope but not plan for a goal against the run of play. It's what he does and it is not going to work

[baggiematt]

3 wins away from home already this season, compared to 4 all of last season. Defensive is boring to watch but he has turned our fortunes away from home which the last few managers couldnt.

I dont think he will change the side except Heggebo will come in I reckon. Hes a handful and helps us counter.

[Bombers right foot]

3 games in a week, the second one will be our usual downfall, expect a few changes, square pegs in round holes, ultra defensive, which game is the one where we have a better chance of 3 points Watford or Ipswich, surely play the best team v Watford then see how the players are for Ipswich, under Mason we could easily lose both games

[baggiematt]

So negative when we are fourth in the league and got the best away form we have had for years.

I think you hammered the appointment so much, you are now set in your views and will overcompensate for anything that doesnt go perfectly.

[baggieal]

So negative when we are fourth in the league and got the best away form we have had for years.

I think you hammered the appointment so much, you are now set in your views and will overcompensate for anything that doesnt go perfectly.

Beg to differ Matt as comments are constructive. I was at Boro and had Mason selected a more positive team we would have left with at least a point. The proof of the pudding was when the subs came on who should have started. Bomber made a good point and it was to play the best team v Watford with the clear intent to win and take it from there.

[Omegstrat6]

Strange one. Despite some sloppy play at times, all seemed to play well as a team yesterday and so I can't see many changes tbh.

Attack wise, I certainly think that Mikey and Maja should start and Price also had a much better game yesterday and I think it suited him playing alongside Maja so would still start him too. Junior also seemed to create things throughout the game so can see him holding his place although game-management will doubtless see both Heggabo and Grant on at some point (and it's good to have Karlan back)

Mowatt had a good game yesterday and I'm sure he will start in midfield although with the knock Collyer got I can see Molumby starting instead of him. With Bany now getting some PL2 game time it will also be interesting to see what creative options he can to midfield bring once he is fit.

As for the back 4, I have a feeling that Mason won't change this. By all accounts, Campbell had a decent game on Saturday and whilst Gilchrist may be better going forward, Mason obviously prefers him, perhaps because of his defensive qualities? The odd one for me is Styles. Certainly, with Taylor at LB, we looked defensively more solid and, despite Styles playing well for his country in midfield, he has been poor when switched to that position for us. On the other hand, his forward play yesterday certainly contributed to our attacking options. I guess it's whether Mason wants to start off with more attacking intent against Watford or not?

No game is an easy one in the Championship but I just hope we continue to show the attacking intent we did on Saturday and not revert to being over defensive. The win will have given them confidence and whilst we need to be mindful of Watford we need to capitalize on that.

[baggiematt]

Beg to differ Matt as comments are constructive. I was at Boro and had Mason selected a more positive team we would have left with at least a point. The proof of the pudding was when the subs came on who should have started. Bomber made a good point and it was to play the best team v Watford with the clear intent to win and take it from there.

So you think he shouldn’t rotate all season? How do you see that going?

What you are basically suggesting is that if you play your best 11, we would never lose. Do you see the flaw in that logic?

[Bombers right foot]

I don?t think rotation is a problem it?s part of the modern game, but it has to be used properly and with common sense. The rotation v Boro and Millwall was an embarrassment, the two games coming up v Watford and Ipswich are both winnable providing the team selection is correct.
Personally I would like to see Saturday?s team play at Watford then see what the options are v Ipswich, both games are winnable but the Watford one would be the one I would be targeting, no point making wholesale changes at Watford then getting beat aka Boro and Millwall then hoping to beat Ipswich.
One thing that irritates me is ?rotation? players in the 60?s and 70?s didn?t have the luxury of rotation or multiple subs and they sometimes played 3 games in a week often on terrible surfaces, players these days are too pampered, teams used to play Christmas Day and Boxing Day and at Easter Good Friday, Saturday and Bank Holiday Monday, these modern day players are supposed to be super fit

[baggieal]

I don?t think rotation is a problem it?s part of the modern game, but it has to be used properly and with common sense. The rotation v Boro and Millwall was an embarrassment, the two games coming up v Watford and Ipswich are both winnable providing the team selection is correct.
Personally I would like to see Saturday?s team play at Watford then see what the options are v Ipswich, both games are winnable but the Watford one would be the one I would be targeting, no point making wholesale changes at Watford then getting beat aka Boro and Millwall then hoping to beat Ipswich.
One thing that irritates me is ?rotation? players in the 60?s and 70?s didn?t have the luxury of rotation or multiple subs and they sometimes played 3 games in a week often on terrible surfaces, players these days are too pampered, teams used to play Christmas Day and Boxing Day and at Easter Good Friday, Saturday and Bank Holiday Monday, these modern day players are supposed to be super fit

Totally agree Bomber. Take Boro - we started with a negative line up and when losing two nil on came the subs who should have started. Take that in reverse - start your best team if possible then when it allows bring on subs like Heggebo to hold the ball up and say Wallace. At Boro ( I was there ) you were always going to lose with that starting line up and all you do is get the home crowd in great voice behind the home team. It?s always much harder too when losing away to come back into the game. Proof of the pudding to is take our central defenders they start every game so why would they be more tired than say your strikers or wingers? Mason just needs to have to the balls to pick the best team and not ponder to players to give them game time ie Wallace. Shocking how a fantastic youngster like Bostock was not even on the bench yesterday and I would bet he would do a better job than Wallace as did Fellows week in week out. Presume now Grant?s back Wallace won?t get a look in but I can see Mikey being rotated to accommodate who for me is a game changer!

[baggiematt]

I don?t think rotation is a problem it?s part of the modern game, but it has to be used properly and with common sense. The rotation v Boro and Millwall was an embarrassment, the two games coming up v Watford and Ipswich are both winnable providing the team selection is correct.
Personally I would like to see Saturday?s team play at Watford then see what the options are v Ipswich, both games are winnable but the Watford one would be the one I would be targeting, no point making wholesale changes at Watford then getting beat aka Boro and Millwall then hoping to beat Ipswich.
One thing that irritates me is ?rotation? players in the 60?s and 70?s didn?t have the luxury of rotation or multiple subs and they sometimes played 3 games in a week often on terrible surfaces, players these days are too pampered, teams used to play Christmas Day and Boxing Day and at Easter Good Friday, Saturday and Bank Holiday Monday, these modern day players are supposed to be super fit

I knew it was coming. The ‘players in 60s and 70s’. Not trying to be funny, but have a watched a game from that era recently? That lot would get smashed to bits in the modern era. It is like watching womens football.

I thought how he played it against boro made sense. They were the most in form side in the league and he picked hard worked lads and an extra midfielder. They caused no threats and the tactics were working… and then we let the most dangerous bloke on the pitch loads of room off a throw in. You cant mitigate for that as a manager.

Have a day off on the team selection nonsense lads. Masons a good gaffer, he has got to rotate. Sometimes it will work, sometimes it wont.

[baggieal]

I knew it was coming. The ‘players in 60s and 70s’. Not trying to be funny, but have a watched a game from that era recently? That lot would get smashed to bits in the modern era. It is like watching womens football.

I thought how he played it against boro made sense. They were the most in form side in the league and he picked hard worked lads and an extra midfielder. They caused no threats and the tactics were working… and then we let the most dangerous bloke on the pitch loads of room off a throw in. You cant mitigate for that as a manager.

Have a day off on the team selection nonsense lads. Masons a good gaffer, he has got to rotate. Sometimes it will work, sometimes it wont.

Your view Matt! Sadly it was not the view of many of the travelling support certainly in the pubs before the game when the starting selection was announced and the sarcastic cheers when the players who should have started came on and then it was match on but too late.

I have no view of Mason yet as it?s too early other than he needs to be braver but that comes with managerial experience. Honestly don?t expect anything more than mid table and don?t mind losing but I do expect to be entertained. Those 2,000 supporters who went to Millwall would have been better seeing barges on the Thames. Did we have one shot at goal?

[Bombers right foot]

Give me the 68 Cup winning side and the 78-79 side over these modern day players anytime, not one of the current side would get into either team, those sides were full of character and skill and played over 50 games in most seasons, the likes of Astle, Brown, Osborne, Wile, Robertson, Willliams,Clarke, Hope, Cunningham,Regis and many more I don?t think played like woman?s football, those
legends and more would wipe the floor with many teams playing this horrifying backwards, sideways rubbish

[baggiematt]

Give me the 68 Cup winning side and the 78-79 side over these modern day players anytime, not one of the current side would get into either team, those sides were full of character and skill and played over 50 games in most seasons, the likes of Astle, Brown, Osborne, Wile, Robertson, Willliams,Clarke, Hope, Cunningham,Regis and many more I don?t think played like woman?s football, those
legends and more would wipe the floor with many teams playing this horrifying backwards, sideways rubbish

Half of them smoked and sank 20 pints a week. They wouldnt even get near to a modern football side. They would lump it forward and wouldnt see it again until they had to kick off from the centre circle.

Tactics were 4 on 4 going forward with a couple of midfield runners for about 80 years. It looked like a load of fun but it aint comparable to modern tactics.

[baggieal]

Half of them smoked and sank 20 pints a week. They wouldnt even get near to a modern football side. They would lump it forward and wouldnt see it again until they had to kick off from the centre circle.

Tactics were 4 on 4 going forward with a couple of midfield runners for about 80 years. It looked like a load of fun but it aint comparable to modern tactics.

Laurie Cunningham or Willie Johnston compared to players like Wallace! Wallace would not be fit to lace their boots! Players like Regis or Phillips rarely missed then you have highly paid crocs now like Dike and Maja who would trip over a water bottle.

Come on Matt be realistic! Yes players in the modern game need pace but our midfield and Campbell are slower than the slow boat to China. Oh for a Jonny Giles or even in later years a Mulumbu or Yacob who you can?t compare in the same breathe to Mowatt or Molumby.