Rafa was the manager when we went down.
He didn't take us down.
That was down to Schteve and Schteve alone.
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Rafa was the manager when we went down.
He didn't take us down.
That was down to Schteve and Schteve alone.
That's actually a fair point.Quote:
Originally Posted by pboromag
But, whilst they earned the right to play in the Premier League, that made them players who play in the Premier League rather than Premier League quality, if that makes sense?
no it doesntQuote:
Originally Posted by Zippity
are you saying someone like say gareth ble who came into the prem isnt prem qulity
are you saying that vardy isnt prem quality
he came from a lower league
and has developed into a premier ship player
some were prem players before they became fizzy players
how does that work then
nope he took us downQuote:
Originally Posted by Jammy89
he had 8 games to get us into safety
he should have played positive footy
but hey ho it was a great season in the fizzy
with our prem players out performing their fizzy counter arts
I agree he was the manager when we went down but he didn't take us down, the damage was long done.Quote:
Originally Posted by pboromag
He had 8 games to save - agreed.
He should of had 10/11 if we'd of got rid of Schteve like we all said. Then he would of saved us, our form showed that, had we played anybody but Leicester in his first game i think we'd of got something, as it was we almost did.
It's a bit of a moot point thought really Pboro because you'll never give him in credit for anything regardless.
So we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
What is a successful club to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by toptoon
Or we'll put it another way. What would be successful for you if new owners come in, bearing in mind it's Newcastle United against the chosen few...or the elite?
Just to expand on what I'm saying. How much spend and wage structure would the new owners need to up for your term of success?
Yeah, it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by pboromag
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And who mentioned Bale or Vardy???? I'm talking about our players. Being in the Premier League doesn't make you a Premier League-quality player...unless you'd like to argue that Manquillo is Premier League quality because he plays in the Premier League?
I would.like to think that some of them now ARE premier league quality, but, then I remembered, players don't improve under Rafa.
When we were in the Fizzy, you constantly called our players sh*t (most notably; Shelvey). What´s made you change your mind or do you think they have developed?Quote:
Originally Posted by pboromag
You might have to find the thread where he said that
Just to prove it....