OT - Transgender footballers

Uh, competing against other military forces. We need a facepalm emoji on this forum.

After researching the FIA?s gender neutral policy I stand corrected regarding F1 academy, trans women are considered women for the purposes of that category

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Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds

flawed and showing lack of knowledge]

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Which bit of ‘not a subject I claim any expertise on at all’ escaped you?

Link didn’t work btw.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Which bit of ‘not a subject I claim any expertise on at all’ escaped you?

Link didn’t work btw.

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no idea why the link failed, it was there yesterday.
But yes your knowledge is flawed, after saying that the fighter pilot comment made sense, but no actual background basis to say that.
The crux of it was, that of course women can fly fighter jets, but the artificial aids supplied in overcoming g-force, let them compete.
Stick a man or woman in an old school fighter like a WW2 Spitfire and the woman will more than likely black out before a male.
It isn't anything derogatory, its genetics, of muscle mass and oxygen absorption. The same criteria apply to many sports, which gives trans men an advantage over women. Some sports like shooting make not jot of difference to *** participation. But a full-grown man, playing in women's football is a different story,

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Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds

no idea why the link failed, it was there yesterday.
But yes your knowledge is flawed, after saying that the fighter pilot comment made sense, but no actual background basis to say that.
The crux of it was, that of course women can fly fighter jets, but the artificial aids supplied in overcoming g-force, let them compete.
Stick a man or woman in an old school fighter like a WW2 Spitfire and the woman will more than likely black out before a male.
It isn't anything derogatory, its genetics, of muscle mass and oxygen absorption. The same criteria apply to many sports, which gives trans men an advantage over women. Some sports like shooting make not jot of difference to *** participation. But a full-grown man, playing in women's football is a different story,

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It was me that posted the assertion, not RA. You don't need a degree in human factors to know that fighter pilots deal with far more extreme forces than someone driving a rally car, unless your Vauxhall Astra is about to pull a 1000mph vertical climb of course

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Originally Posted by Ramshank72

It was me that posted the assertion, not RA. You don't need a degree in human factors to know that fighter pilots deal with far more extreme forces than someone driving a rally car, unless your Vauxhall Astra is about to pull a 1000mph vertical climb of course

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Or, more realistically, the opposite after a navigator calls 90 left instead of 90 right on a mountain stage

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Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds

no idea why the link failed, it was there yesterday.
But yes your knowledge is flawed, after saying that the fighter pilot comment made sense, but no actual background basis to say that.
The crux of it was, that of course women can fly fighter jets, but the artificial aids supplied in overcoming g-force, let them compete.
Stick a man or woman in an old school fighter like a WW2 Spitfire and the woman will more than likely black out before a male.
It isn't anything derogatory, its genetics, of muscle mass and oxygen absorption. The same criteria apply to many sports, which gives trans men an advantage over women. Some sports like shooting make not jot of difference to *** participation. But a full-grown man, playing in women's football is a different story,

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Tricky, you forget that rA has way more experience in fighter aircraft and with G forces than any of us, due to his many years as a rear gunner.

Sorry rA, couldn't resist it and the opportunity too good to pass up.

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

Or, more realistically, the opposite after a navigator calls 90 left instead of 90 right on a mountain stage

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Ah, well that is the issue not discussed, female navigators...

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Originally Posted by Ramshank72

It was me that posted the assertion, not RA. You don't need a degree in human factors to know that fighter pilots deal with far more extreme forces than someone driving a rally car, unless your Vauxhall Astra is about to pull a 1000mph vertical climb of course

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yes I know that and answered him about him saying it sounded reasonable.
Fighter pilots do deal with more G's than anyone. But it is why they wear G suits, that squeeze your thighs etc, to stop the blood rushing to your feet and letting you pass out to easily. They also have fly by wire where the muscles involved are irrelevant and on board AI monitoring G force and the pilots limits. Hardly comparable to man or woman competing in a F1 car with a fire retardant jump suit, using their muscles and body mass to fight the G's exerted.
Still don't get it? https://youtube.com/shorts/BLO-6V4yH...uYYIQXU4r2u-jy

The whole point is, do men have a genetic advantage over women in many sports?
Yes they do, and why trans men should be banned from any sport, those advantages lessen a womans chances of winning

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Tricky, you forget that rA has way more experience in fighter aircraft and with G forces than any of us, due to his many years as a rear gunner.

Sorry rA, couldn't resist it and the opportunity too good to pass up.

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Not really, as a rear gunner, his experience would only be in negative G , a different experience and problems altogether.