OT - Transgender footballers

[Geoff Parkstone]

no idea why the link failed, it was there yesterday.
But yes your knowledge is flawed, after saying that the fighter pilot comment made sense, but no actual background basis to say that.
The crux of it was, that of course women can fly fighter jets, but the artificial aids supplied in overcoming g-force, let them compete.
Stick a man or woman in an old school fighter like a WW2 Spitfire and the woman will more than likely black out before a male.
It isn't anything derogatory, its genetics, of muscle mass and oxygen absorption. The same criteria apply to many sports, which gives trans men an advantage over women. Some sports like shooting make not jot of difference to *** participation. But a full-grown man, playing in women's football is a different story,

Tricky, you forget that rA has way more experience in fighter aircraft and with G forces than any of us, due to his many years as a rear gunner.

Sorry rA, couldn't resist it and the opportunity too good to pass up.

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky, you forget that rA has way more experience in fighter aircraft and with G forces than any of us, due to his many years as a rear gunner.

Sorry rA, couldn't resist it and the opportunity too good to pass up.

Not really, as a rear gunner, his experience would only be in negative G , a different experience and problems altogether.

[ramAnag]

Tricky, you forget that rA has way more experience in fighter aircraft and with G forces than any of us, due to his many years as a rear gunner.

Sorry rA, couldn't resist it and the opportunity too good to pass up.

No reluctance to comment, or fear of flak, Andy. It just seemed to run its course about a week ago. Seems unfair to most, including me, to allow transgender participants in sports where strength is a particular virtue…end of really.
On the other hand, there is, imo, a place for mixed sports and - having dabbled in mixed hockey many years ago - I can assure you that the women could be brutal.

[Andy_Faber]

No reluctance to comment, or fear of flak, Andy. It just seemed to run its course about a week ago. Seems unfair to most, including me, to allow transgender participants in sports where strength is a particular virtue?end of really.
On the other hand, there is, imo, a place for mixed sports and - having dabbled in mixed hockey many years ago - I can assure you that the women could be brutal.

I?ve done netball and I still carry the scars!

[ramAnag]

By slightly bizarre coincidence I went to watch one of my granddaughters play softball yesterday and amongst the opposition ranks was a boy currently transitioning to a girl.
This was at what might best be described as inter township U13 level. There didn’t appear to be an issue and no disrespect or outrage was shown whatsoever.
I suppose, especially at this age level, soft ball isn’t the most physical of sports although, for those who may not know, the ball is anything but soft and as it becomes more physically competitive I imagine more questions may be asked of the appropriateness of this individual continuing to play in a female league.
Heartening to see such tolerance being shown in the U.S. however, again at this level, there was no use of changing facilities and I’m guessing that as adolescence kicks in there is likely to be a different attitude.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect is that transitioning a such a young age should have been sanctioned in the conservative old USA. Too young for a tattoo but old enough to ‘change gender’ seems odd to me.

[Trickytreesreds]

By slightly bizarre coincidence I went to watch one of my granddaughters play softball yesterday and amongst the opposition ranks was a boy currently transitioning to a girl.
This was at what might best be described as inter township U13 level. There didn’t appear to be an issue and no disrespect or outrage was shown whatsoever.
I suppose, especially at this age level, soft ball isn’t the most physical of sports although, for those who may not know, the ball is anything but soft and as it becomes more physically competitive I imagine more questions may be asked of the appropriateness of this individual continuing to play in a female league.
Heartening to see such tolerance being shown in the U.S. however, again at this level, there was no use of changing facilities and I’m guessing that as adolescence kicks in there is likely to be a different attitude.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect is that transitioning a such a young age should have been sanctioned in the conservative old USA. Too young for a tattoo but old enough to ‘change gender’ seems odd to me.

Yep, but when Hollywood stars raise their kids like a circus show, from when they are babies, it's hardly surprising is it?

https://www.rifttv.com/celebrities-with-trans-kids/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...n-affleck.html