Without going down the road of who is telling the truth because often in politics it much doesn't matter .

It doesn't matter because perception is often the only show in town in politics and the Tories in my opinion haven't earned the right to be believed on this black hole matter given the pack of lies they've told , the corruption they've willingly allowed and the self serving nature of their 14 years tenure .

They haven't the right to be believed any more than Gordon Brown had when the note was left about the treasury not having any money left .

It's impossible for the treasury not to have any money given they simply instruct the Bank Of England to print some more but because of the financial crash and subsequent recession the mud stuck and there was nothing Labour could do to change that perception .

The electorate don't trust the Tories and it will be a long time before they do and they got the electoral thumping they deserved .

If ever there was a government losing an election rather than the opposition winning it then last summer was it .