O/T EU Vote In/Out

[Getintaethem]

Hard to argue with some of the Leave arguments on here.Am mostly out at this stage,mainly for democratic reasons,Cameron and Co have only given economic arguments.
Still open to persuasion though.On one hand am thinking our leaving may trigger the break up of the EU,and possible security issues,but on the other it may be help address the complacency/unaccountabilty of your Mandelsons and fellow Eurocrats

I understand your concerns. I had them too.

I think the EU is going to fall at some point in the future. This could be a gradual failure or it could be a dramatic failure. The dramatic failure would happen because the Euro and the policies of Germany and the EU against nations like Greece or the issues with Italy and France. Without billions and billions going into these economies to prop them up the Euro it will fail. At some stage, Germany's government may decide enough is enough. There are huge economic challenges with no easy answers for the EU and their only answer so far is to pump billions in.

The EU cannot continue with some members in the Euro and others outside it. The EU in order to save the Euro will need the Euro members to get ever closer to a State with all tax and spend being controlled centrally. This will drive non Euro states away from the EU and perhaps some others in the Euro.

With regards to security, it is in everyone's interest to continue intelligence sharing. The UK (like it or not) has the biggest intelligence operation in the whole of Europe and one of the largest in the World. This has been proven by the intelligence leaks that have happened over the past few years. We therefore share more intelligence with our partners in Europe that we receive. Intelligence sharing will continue. There are some things that we can control and others we cannot. We cannot control the consequences of a dramatic failure of the Euro inside or outside of the EU.

[TheDeeDon]

I might vote for whoever promises no more TV debates. Do we really vote people such as the shower we saw on TV last night to look after our interests? Politics is in an even bigger mess than I thought.

[Mason89]

When a nation and its peoples stand on the knife edge of history, its often the most unexpected who arise to steer us to the higher ground

[ObanRed]

When a nation and its peoples stand on the knife edge of history, its often the most unexpected who arise to steer us to the higher ground

Where the hell did you find that !!!

[Aldo1983]

He's one of the last people I'd have expected to vote remain.

[Mason89]

When the 1979 News of the World champion speaks, people will listen.

Game set & match Boris!

[GlezgaRed]

When the 1979 News of the World champion speaks, people will listen.

Game set & match Boris!

I thought that happened when David Beckham broke ranks to tell us that we should all vote to remain !!

[NEM83]

I thought that happened when David Beckham broke ranks to tell us that we should all vote to remain !!

Show's how desperate the establishment are getting when they roll out thick as mince ex footballers who live abroad.

[Aldo1983]

Show's how desperate the establishment are getting when they roll out thick as mince ex footballers who live abroad.

He is a gentleman. Won't have a bad word said against him.

[Brian Grantland]

Show's how desperate the establishment are getting when they roll out thick as mince ex footballers who live abroad.

Leave tried it.
But their John Barnes lie got caught out by John Barnes.
Oh and Beckham lives in London...