OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[AngryRam]

What?

Is there not a guy called Andy Faber who has just written a book about Clough & Taylor. Thought it might have been you..
The book was called 'Bring Me Sunshine'
My mistake.

[ramAnag]

'Curly Latin kinkies,
Mixed with yellow Chinkees'

Strange how 1969's homage to racial integration has probably been seriously politically incorrect for a while now.

[Andy_Faber]

It's alright...Angry's obviously a Morecambe and Wise fan.

Btw, what's this 'real world', AF? 'Real World' as opposed to...?

'Real World' means the world of business, the 'Private sector' as opposed to the fantasy but dangerously powerful world of the public sector. IMO.

[Andy_Faber]

Is there not a guy called Andy Faber who has just written a book about Clough & Taylor. Thought it might have been you..
The book was called 'Bring Me Sunshine'
My mistake.

Yes that was me. the 'what?' was about the angry face, wondered what I'd said.

[swaledale]

'Real World' means the world of business, the 'Private sector' as opposed to the fantasy but dangerously powerful world of the public sector. IMO.

Ah yes the private sector dont have a fantsy world do they? mm bloody public sector and its dodgy dealings causing the financial crash, oh and the public sector fancying fleecing BHS and causing its demise!

Those public sector employers who employ illegal immigrants as modern days slaves, got a lot to answer for! As for Maxwell, what a public sector fisaco that was!

Ah well at lest we know if the EU isn't to blame then its the public sector, so thats sorted, bloody simple this politics and economics lark surprised its taken us so long!

I bloody give up! If completely stupid comments are the order of the day then we are completely ****ing doomed!

[ramAnag]

'Real World' means the world of business, the 'Private sector' as opposed to the fantasy but dangerously powerful world of the public sector. IMO.

Oh God, I so wish that wasn't what you meant. Really thought you had more about you than that. Please not the 'real' world of business versus the make believe world of the 'public sector'.
Having spent my entire working life - writing apart - working in the 'public sector' I really do take exception to this 'wealth creators' equal the real world while we teachers, doctors, nurses, firemen, policemen, social workers, refuse collectors etc just spend it all and live in some sort of idyllic fantasy land.
Had a conversation with a self employed mechanic once. He asked me when I was going to get a 'proper job'. At the time he was fixing cars to earn a living in his own small company set up by his father. I on the other hand was running a school in a disadvantaged area with responsibility for the welfare of all the pupils - obviously - and about forty staff. Course...he was the one with the proper job!
I honestly understand the need for wealth creators...or responsible ones at least...but please don't try and ever tell me that the private sector - including all those wonderful bankers - have a greater role to play in society or grasp of reality than the teachers, doctors and nurses etc mentioned above, 'cos that's just total bollux. Why the **** private and public sector can't just recognise and respect the mutual need for each other I don't know but the 'proper job/real world' comments go a long way to explain it.

Suspect a proper 'can of worms' has just been opened...should get us over the 500 but there may be trouble - and fireworks - ahead.

[swaledale]

Oh God, I so wish that wasn't what you meant. Really thought you had more about you than that. Please not the 'real' world of business versus the make believe world of the 'public sector'.
Having spent my entire working life - writing apart - working in the 'public sector' I really do take exception to this 'wealth creators' equal the real world while we teachers, doctors, nurses, firemen, policemen, social workers, refuse collectors etc just spend it all and live in some sort of idyllic fantasy land.
Had a conversation with a self employed mechanic once. He asked me when I was going to get a 'proper job'. At the time he was fixing cars to earn a living in his own small company set up by his father. I on the other hand was running a school in a disadvantaged area with responsibility for the welfare of all the pupils - obviously - and about forty staff. Course...he was the one with the proper job!
I honestly understand the need for wealth creators...or responsible ones at least...but please don't try and ever tell me that the private sector - including all those wonderful bankers - have a greater role to play in society or grasp of reality than the teachers, doctors and nurses etc mentioned above, 'cos that's just total bollux. Why the **** private and public sector can't just recognise and respect the mutual need for each other I don't know but the 'proper job/real world' comments go a long way to explain it.

Suspect a proper 'can of worms' has just been opened...should get us over the 500 but there may be trouble - and fireworks - ahead.

Triple like, I've worked in both sectors, currently in the private and have been for the last 15 years but words fail me when people make statements like that! Theres good and bad in both and in truth one could not survive without the other but i despiar when comments with a complete lack of perspective like that are made.

[Ram59]

I have to agree, both myself and my wife have worked in both sectors and some people in both sectors are not living in the same world as the rest of us. Our favourite industry, football, to name one.

BTW, back on topic, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the benefits of staying in Europe, that can't be achieved out of the eu.

[AngryRam]

Yes that was me. the 'what?' was about the angry face, wondered what I'd said.

The angry face goes on all my posts, it's like a signature. It goes with the name.. Been doing it from the start, sort of traditional now.

[roger_ramjet]

The private and public sectors will always have different perspectives on life - after all the former earn the money for the latter to spend. Ne'er the twain shall meet.

Now time to sit back and watch the reaction. Its a bit like the traditional husband and wife roles (now long gone).

NB Apart from a week as a relief postie many years ago Ive never worked in public sector. I am sad to say therefore that I dont have a nationally unaffordable iron clad pension now!