Ragingpup, I thought you were a decent poster but see now you're just a pr*ck. You have deliberately misconstrued my posts. Just to reiterate; the point I'm making is that the leftie position on UK Muslims is contradictory and dishonest. You suggest that "your hope" is that UK Muslims will gradually adopt the culture and values of the host nation. I don't say you're racist but point out that your argument is deemed racist by your fellow lefties. In Lancashire their slogan (in the laughably named Joint Trades Council - laughable as none of them would know a trade if it bit their rrse - which is actually a front for Friends of Radical Islam) is "Separate But Equal" and your views would be denounced by THEM as racist and reflecting "cultural hegemony". You're all liars and the logic of your position will be greater segregation, a more militant Islam at grass roots level and a move to the "limited" (Oh yes, limited at first) introduction of Shariah.