Change in disciplinary punishments

[ramAnag]

I wasn’t trying to justify the Bennet tackle Mista, I was attempting to raise a general question about whether the current punishments need extending. So you can slim down your astonishment! I was trying to add context by what Pep is currently saying about player protection in general. That tackle was X-Rated and the player did get the right punishment although do you think it was enough??
I was trying to make the point, poorly it seems, that the quicker the attacking player is, the more likely he is to be on the end of a poor tackle. It doesn’t always mean it’s malicious, just a defender making a genuine attempt that he doesn’t get right. More than a yellow but less than a red. Sin bins??

Shame though that out of 90 odd replies, only yours, Anags and maybe a couple others have discussed the point!!

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

[Rob_the_Ram]

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

No I don’t think Bennett got the right punishment. I think a straight red would have been the right decision.
What I was trying to get us discussing was the general point of it’s either Nothing, Yellow Card, Red Card and the difference between Red and Yellow is huge!!
Yellow is really just a punishment for the player that the totting up system may result in a ban. However in the actual game the offence was committed, there is no real advantage to the team that was fouled against unless in the box or they score from a free kick just outside. And no real disadvantage to the fouling team unless (as above).
But to give a red, the ref has to be pretty definite that the foul was dangerous or reckless. Without certainty in his mind, he has to give a yellow - favouring the offending side.
Yellows are given for removing ones shirt in the excitement of scoring, kicking the ball away, bad mouthing etc as well as serious foul play. It doesn’t seem right even though the punishments for the non football offences are known before play starts.
I think last ditch (just mistimed) tackles such as I would expect OUR defenders to make in that situation should be Yellow with an additional punishment that benefits the attacking team.
I’d say a 15 min Sin Bin would be about right. And just to make it so that the offending TEAM is punished and to try to stamp out such reckless fouls in the first place, how about the fouled team deciding which player from the fouling team sits out the 15 mins. Peer pressure as well as the manager’s displeasure would surely drop offending.

[MadAmster]

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

Kane has now come out and said "he felt contact so he went down". That is enough to tell me that it wasn't a penalty. Football is still (only just though) a contact sport. If mere contact is enough to warrant going down we would never see all 22 players simultaneously on their feet.

Man up Kane. You go down when you can't stay upright any longer. This is the sort of cissy behaviour that is both making a ref's job even harder and ruining the game.