Change in disciplinary punishments

[MadAmster]

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

Kane has now come out and said "he felt contact so he went down". That is enough to tell me that it wasn't a penalty. Football is still (only just though) a contact sport. If mere contact is enough to warrant going down we would never see all 22 players simultaneously on their feet.

Man up Kane. You go down when you can't stay upright any longer. This is the sort of cissy behaviour that is both making a ref's job even harder and ruining the game.

[mistaram]

Some blame should also be put at the refs door because I watch loads of football and I've never seen a ref give a player a pen for staying on his feet

[Romanis]

Some blame should also be put at the refs door because I watch loads of football and I've never seen a ref give a player a pen for staying on his feet

Yes except a clear shirt tug

[Manofpride]

Slightly off topic but what bugs me is when a goalkeeper has the ball in his hands runs to the edge of the box to kick the ball into play. I reckon at least 50% of the time the ball is still in his hands outside the box when he kicks it. All Refs and linesmen seem to turn a blind eye to this. I can't understand why the keeper holding the ball outside the box is never spotted with ball in hand/hands on the field of play! I've noticed it for years!

[ramAnag]

I think mista and MA above have just had a nail on the head moment. Kane ‘felt contact so he went down’ and ultimately won a penalty by cheating. Compare and contrast with Jerome who, having had his ankles kicked from beneath him by fif**** stone of Flint, made sure the generally unobservant ref noticed it and not only didn’t get the penalty but also got booked. Where’s the justice and consistency?
Agree with MoP too about goalkeepers...one of these days one of them will pay the price...hope it’s not our Frank.

[Romanis]

Slightly off topic but what bugs me is when a goalkeeper has the ball in his hands runs to the edge of the box to kick the ball into play. I reckon at least 50% of the time the ball is still in his hands outside the box when he kicks it. All Refs and linesmen seem to turn a blind eye to this. I can't understand why the keeper holding the ball outside the box is never spotted with ball in hand/hands on the field of play! I've noticed it for years!

Precisely. This was something I used to pull up when I was a linesman.
If I was 'supporting a team' all these things the opponent did I'd raise my flag.
Another common one was not standing before/on the line for throw ins. Most would take a step in

[MadAmster]

Slightly off topic but what bugs me is when a goalkeeper has the ball in his hands runs to the edge of the box to kick the ball into play. I reckon at least 50% of the time the ball is still in his hands outside the box when he kicks it. All Refs and linesmen seem to turn a blind eye to this. I can't understand why the keeper holding the ball outside the box is never spotted with ball in hand/hands on the field of play! I've noticed it for years!

That is a bugbear of mine too and not the only one when it comes to keepers.

1. When the keeper bounces the ball or throws it up so he can kick it away, he is deemed to still be in physical possession of the ball (in his hands) and opposition players may not attempt to play the ball nor may they attempt to prevent the keeper kicking the ball. Every time a keeper throws the ball up inside his area and then follows it out of the area to volley it forward, if the ball is a fraction of a cm outside his box when he volleys it, he has committed handball. Direct free kick and, if you are dumb and follow the letter of the La, he should also get red for deliberate handball outside the box. Personally I warn them 1st time, yellow for a 2nd offence and red for a third. The level I ref at these days, yellow brings an automatic 10 minute sin bin.

2. The 6 second Law. It is still there. Most refs don't apply it. I do. Again, I don't go directly into giiving a foul mode. I warn the keeper first time and make crystal clear that I will give the free kick if he does it again.

[ramAnag]

That is a bugbear of mine too and not the only one when it comes to keepers.

1. When the keeper bounces the ball or throws it up so he can kick it away, he is deemed to still be in physical possession of the ball (in his hands) and opposition players may not attempt to play the ball nor may they attempt to prevent the keeper kicking the ball. Every time a keeper throws the ball up inside his area and then follows it out of the area to volley it forward, if the ball is a fraction of a cm outside his box when he volleys it, he has committed handball. Direct free kick and, if you are dumb and follow the letter of the La, he should also get red for deliberate handball outside the box. Personally I warn them 1st time, yellow for a 2nd offence and red for a third. The level I ref at these days, yellow brings an automatic 10 minute sin bin.

2. The 6 second Law. It is still there. Most refs don't apply it. I do. Again, I don't go directly into giiving a foul mode. I warn the keeper first time and make crystal clear that I will give the free kick if he does it again.

All sounds far too sensible and in touch for today’s law makers.

[Romanis]

All sounds far too sensible and in touch for today’s law makers.

The issue in not enforcing this rule, is more to do with game management. Referees are urged to exercise discretion and not be too petty, if the action taken will interrupt the flow of the game.
Of course your rebuttal would be, 'why have the rule in the first place?'

That I can't answer, probably the explanation would be it should be used only for 'drastic cases.'

[MadAmster]

The issue in not enforcing this rule, is more to do with game management. Referees are urged to exercise discretion and not be too petty, if the action taken will interrupt the flow of the game.
Of course your rebuttal would be, 'why have the rule in the first place?'

That I can't answer, probably the explanation would be it should be used only for 'drastic cases.'

A keeper consistently taking 12 to 15 seconds to release the ball from hand is IMO interrupting the flow of the game. If he is being harried by an opposition player preventing him from wellying the ball downfield I would not penalise the keeper as the player would be preventing him from a safe release, indirect free kick to the keeper.