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[Jammy89]

Rafa was the manager when we went down.

He didn't take us down.

That was down to Schteve and Schteve alone.

[Zippity]

they have deserved the right to be called prem players

especially by their own fans

That's actually a fair point.

But, whilst they earned the right to play in the Premier League, that made them players who play in the Premier League rather than Premier League quality, if that makes sense?

[pboromag]

That's actually a fair point.

But, whilst they earned the right to play in the Premier League, that made them players who play in the Premier League rather than Premier League quality, if that makes sense?

no it doesnt
are you saying someone like say gareth ble who came into the prem isnt prem qulity

are you saying that vardy isnt prem quality
he came from a lower league
and has developed into a premier ship player

some were prem players before they became fizzy players
how does that work then

[pboromag]

Rafa was the manager when we went down.

He didn't take us down.

That was down to Schteve and Schteve alone.

nope he took us down

he had 8 games to get us into safety
he should have played positive footy
but hey ho it was a great season in the fizzy
with our prem players out performing their fizzy counter arts

[Jammy89]

nope he took us down

he had 8 games to get us into safety
he should have played positive footy
but hey ho it was a great season in the fizzy
with our prem players out performing their fizzy counter arts

I agree he was the manager when we went down but he didn't take us down, the damage was long done.

He had 8 games to save - agreed.

He should of had 10/11 if we'd of got rid of Schteve like we all said. Then he would of saved us, our form showed that, had we played anybody but Leicester in his first game i think we'd of got something, as it was we almost did.

It's a bit of a moot point thought really Pboro because you'll never give him in credit for anything regardless.

So we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

[ghostrider]

It is possible that we could get a worse or the same type of owner as Ashley.
I just hope that there has been enough publicity around our situation to warn off any such owner. This is maybe why there isn’t a queue of buyers lined up.
If it was just a matter of running a business and making a profit then It would be easy (Ash has done that). Running a PL club to be succesful requires large investment and high risk, and the importance of Rafa being here for this to work out well cannot be underestimated.

I wonder if Stavley is regretting not taking the plunge 6 months ago?

What is a successful club to you?
Or we'll put it another way. What would be successful for you if new owners come in, bearing in mind it's Newcastle United against the chosen few...or the elite?

Just to expand on what I'm saying. How much spend and wage structure would the new owners need to up for your term of success?

[Zippity]

no it doesnt

Yeah, it does.



And who mentioned Bale or Vardy???? I'm talking about our players. Being in the Premier League doesn't make you a Premier League-quality player...unless you'd like to argue that Manquillo is Premier League quality because he plays in the Premier League?

[waalsendmick]

I would.like to think that some of them now ARE premier league quality, but, then I remembered, players don't improve under Rafa.

[toptoon]

nope he took us down

he had 8 games to get us into safety
he should have played positive footy
but hey ho it was a great season in the fizzy
with our prem players out performing their fizzy counter arts

When we were in the Fizzy, you constantly called our players sh*t (most notably; Shelvey). What´s made you change your mind or do you think they have developed?

[AP69]

You might have to find the thread where he said that

Just to prove it....