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    If you are not given the facts, how can you come to the correct decision? What the whole fiasco proves, though, is that the country should not be governed by referenda, it just splits society down the middle. I honestly cannot see how a satisfactory outcome is possible from the current shambles. There is nobody that can be seen as someone that has any idea as to how this can all be brought together for a satisfactory outcome, whether it be for leave or remain. I honestly don’t believe that the general public was in a position to understand all the implications of leaving the EU. Let’s remember that for over 40 years the UK has helped draw up the rules and regulations of the EU; surely we’d be better off staying in and helping to shape the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kettering_baggie View Post
    If you are not given the facts, how can you come to the correct decision? What the whole fiasco proves, though, is that the country should not be governed by referenda, it just splits society down the middle. I honestly cannot see how a satisfactory outcome is possible from the current shambles. There is nobody that can be seen as someone that has any idea as to how this can all be brought together for a satisfactory outcome, whether it be for leave or remain. I honestly don’t believe that the general public was in a position to understand all the implications of leaving the EU. Let’s remember that for over 40 years the UK has helped draw up the rules and regulations of the EU; surely we’d be better off staying in and helping to shape the future?
    There are facts and then there are facts, it's up to the electorate to access information and inform their own opinion to expand upon what is fed to them. Did voters from either side do it? I've no idea beyond what people say/post other than knowing that I did. Did voters place their mark for leave through fear of immigration? I dare say many did. Did many vote remain through fear of the unknown? I dare say many did. Personally I think it's great that opinion was split down the middle in so much as it reinvigorated debate and the national interest in politics. What I don't think is great is that many decry the intelligence of others for holding a different opinion.

    I respect the fact that others feel differently to me, I do not belittle their thought process or final decision. Further to this I think it's absolutely shocking that party politics is clearly coming before a strong alliance regarding negotiations. Don't fear change, embrace it. Take it on. Find a new path. The old one was broken and in need of repair. Those in power had little interest in the 'general public' and that was their arrogant downfall. Rather than repair the path it had become time for a new one.

    Of course we don't know where we're going, as you've stated we've been in the EU for so long. But you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see where the EU was heading, be that with or without us as part of it. As for the so called 'negotiations' you can see exactly what the EU commissionaires thought/think of us, and it really wasn't a great deal. We want to trade with them under our own rules, they want to break us!

    Time for change and more than high time for those who 'earn' a wedge from politics to deliver. And it's not beyond the whit of man (or woman) to realise we'll only get the best deal if we present a united front in negotiations, deal with our soon to be (hopefully) former EU partners and move on together as external trading partners as best we can.
    Last edited by Albionic68; 28-07-2018 at 12:56 AM.

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