O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[KerrAvon]

Lol. So you have just added together that the number of people voting Labour because of their policies is marginally outnumbered by people voting Labour for ALL other reasons! And you're putting that over as an argument?! Nice one!

No I haven't, ranting. Look again. And the figures do bear out my point about the Tory campaign, at which point you go back to curtains drawn carriage rocking, lol.

As I say, I can see why you should be pleased with Labour's performance. Eight and a half years of austerity, the Tories divided and you aren't behind in most opinion polls.

[millmoormagic]

So, Kerravon once again gets found out, continues to be his old condescending self, and resorts to frankly petty and childish name calling....'ranting', really kerr, i mean really?? grow up fella because it's pathetic.

[ragingpup]

No I haven't, ranting. Look again. And the figures do bear out my point about the Tory campaign, at which point you go back to curtains drawn carriage rocking, lol.

As I say, I can see why you should be pleased with Labour's performance. Eight and a half years of austerity, the Tories divided and you aren't behind in most opinion polls.

No one is denying that the Tories campaign wasn't poor. But you're being ridiculously simplistic. unable to face that other factors were at work too. Like people saying to us, face to face, on doorsteps that they might actually go and vote as they liked Labour's policies. Or that they were voting Tory as they were passionate on Brexit.

On Labour being behind on some polls. Yep, these are difficult times. Many Labour supporters are peed off as Corbyn doesn't throw himself behind the 2nd Vote. Many others peed off because they think he doesn't want their version of a hard Brexit. And the ongoing numbers of people voting Tory because of Corbyn won't go away. So hard times for us too. But the vast majority of us are (still over half a million) of us are waiting for the next chance, post Brexit **** up, when we can hold the Tories to account for their policies.

Now, look up the board. Three questions await that pick holes in your logic, just as you like doing to others. Please do treat us to answers or explain why you think that they are unreasonable questions...

Happy Monday.

[Exiletyke]

I notice Nissan has pulled production of the X Trail originally planned for Sunderland and taking it to Japan.

You may also notice that Nissan is not moving production to the EU is it?

[MillerBill]

The Conservatives would be favourite to win if there was an election now according to the bookmakers.

[WanChaiMiller]

You may also notice that Nissan is not moving production to the EU is it?

I know. They've moved production to Japan - who btw has just signed a free trade agreement with the EU that came into effect 1st Feb 2019.

And this is the nub of my concern.

Far East Countries have their own Free Trade Regions. Look up China - ASEAN free trade area 10 South East Asia countries plus China.*

We know Dyson shifted its head office to Singapore recently. It means they can manufacture in any of the ASEAN countries and export goods duty free to hub distribution via Singapore. They use the Singapore free trade agreement with the EU to export goods into Europe duty free.

Brexit under WTO regs will leave us way behind the game. The big multi nationals like Dyson and JCB will just bypass Britain.

[animallittle3]

I know. They've moved production to Japan - who btw has just signed a free trade agreement with the EU that came into effect 1st Feb 2019.

And this is the nub of my concern.

Far East Countries have their own Free Trade Regions. Look up China - ASEAN free trade area 10 South East Asia countries plus China.*

We know Dyson shifted its head office to Singapore recently. It means they can manufacture in any of the ASEAN countries and export goods duty free to hub distribution via Singapore. They use the Singapore free trade agreement with the EU to export goods into Europe duty free.

Brexit under WTO regs will leave us way behind the game. The big multi nationals like Dyson and JCB will just bypass Britain.

None of this is particularly new you know if you are a certain age .

Recessions , the old manufacturing industries closed down , banking crisis , wages falling behind , austerity etc etc .

I lost my job yesterday as a matter of fact .

Times get hard and then things pick up , peaks and troughs even in the EU .

The world will not end Wan Chai , adversity is the mother of invention .

[Exiletyke]

Called boom & bust & has been for years
When the greedy buggers at the top have taken as much as they can........ boom
Those at the bottom pay the price ........bust

& repeat

[WanChaiMiller]

None of this is particularly new you know if you are a certain age .

Recessions , the old manufacturing industries closed down , banking crisis , wages falling behind , austerity etc etc .

I lost my job yesterday as a matter of fact .

Times get hard and then things pick up , peaks and troughs even in the EU .

The world will not end Wan Chai , adversity is the mother of invention .

Sorry to hear about your job animal.

[ragingpup]

None of this is particularly new you know if you are a certain age .

Recessions , the old manufacturing industries closed down , banking crisis , wages falling behind , austerity etc etc .

I lost my job yesterday as a matter of fact .

Times get hard and then things pick up , peaks and troughs even in the EU .

The world will not end Wan Chai , adversity is the mother of invention .

Sorry to hear about the job animal. Good luck with finding another quickly mate