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Thread: O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    See it how you want. But your party’s message on wanting a No Deal is loud and clear and appealed to those hard core passionate voters that believe in that message. Their support has maxed out. I’m sure that whatever policies the BP put out in future showing “what they would do for Peterborough”, if falling in line with the last UKIP manifesto in 2014 will win very few labour and conservative voters. Unless you think there is a market in Peterborough for Farage’s selling off of the health service and us all switching to every man for himself private insurance? Evidence doesn’t look too good on that based on Trump’s comments this week.

    If we’re looking at the voting numbers from the Remain v Leave parties point of view, then I’ll agree with you. The Remain cause can take no heart from the performance of the Lib Dems, although a +9 ain’t too bad in a strong Leave town. But I’ve never been a Remain campaigner and am looking at this from what the majority of people in this Leave town are telling us with their vote. This seems to be that the majority of people in the town don’t want to support Remain, but don’t want to leave with No Deal either. To say they support either on this evidence is a massive stretch isn’t it?

    But very much looking forward to the BP manifesto. It can only harm them further.
    FFS pup how the **** do you not get it? The Labour party threw everything they had at Peterborough, it was the only seat they were fighting for and every resource they have was pitched into this battle and they held on with the skin of their teeth and you see that result as no appetite for a no deal??? Deluded is the word I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    What a bizarre comment. British citizens are equally entitled to vote whether they be Muslim, Christian, Atheist or Telly tubby.

    A statement about as meaningful as "the Labour vote just saved them".
    The whole thread has become pretty bizzare, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    The whole thread has become pretty bizzare, John.
    I like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    FFS pup how the **** do you not get it? The Labour party threw everything they had at Peterborough, it was the only seat they were fighting for and every resource they have was pitched into this battle and they held on with the skin of their teeth and you see that result as no appetite for a no deal??? Deluded is the word I think.
    Ok, I’ll break it down:

    1. I'm saying that Labour did well, through their on the ground campaigners, to get more votes than the Brexit Party in a big Leave town. Most commentators didn’t expect that. I didn’t. But a good result to hold on in this big Leave town

    2. I’m saying that this doesn’t give Labour any more confidence that their current policy on Brexit is working and that they need to change tack.

    3. I’m saying that the results indicate that there is not a support in Peterborough for either Remain or a No deal Brexit
    What part are you disagreeing with? If you are arguing that Peterborough is voting, on this election, for a No Deal Brexit, then please present your evidence for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    The whole thread has become pretty bizzare, John.
    Hi Kerr. I think you may have missed the question I posted yesterday back in the halcyon days of Post #2610

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Hi Kerr. I think you may have missed the question I posted yesterday back in the halcyon days of Post #2610
    I didn't. I just couldn't be bothered to reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I didn't. I just couldn't be bothered to reply.
    Bit rude there Mr Kerr - it wasn't asked in any way in confrontation. I was just interested to hear your thoughts on it as many of us on the Labour side have very mixed feelings on the next Labour move on Brexit in light of the fact that negotiations haven't worked and we're shedding voters from both sides!

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    interesting that in last nights summary the BBC political editor mentioned that most Muslim voters would support Labour and that Peterborough has a very high number of voters whose families originally came from Italy.

    Not your usual demographics, but I’m sure Corbyn is glad of their support.

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    Labour's "well established electoral machine" in Peterborough does sound like a euphemism for electoral fraud.

    Labour are known to use "electoral fraud factories" to get their candidates elected.

    Corrupt postmen had handed over sacks of postal ballots to Labour candidates, little boys had been paid to steal postal ballots from letterboxes and bags full of postal votes had arrived late at the count, to be included without question in the poll.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ocalgovernment

    No wonder they are so against voter ID.
    Last edited by great_fire; 07-06-2019 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    Labour's "well established electoral machine" in Peterborough does sound like a euphemism for electoral fraud.

    Labour are known to use "electoral fraud factories" to get their candidates elected.

    No wonder they are so against vote ID.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ocalgovernment
    "Labour's "well established electoral machine"" ??!! Who coined that phrase and in what context?

    And who knows Labour as "electoral fraud factories"? Never heard it before!

    And if Labour suddenly declared a system of anyone being allowed to give the party £25 without name/address confirmation, as the Brexit Party do, would you say that this allows possibilities for electoral fraud of which the Labour Party will of course be guilty in your eyes (but not the Brexit Party, good God no!)?

    Or are you just plain bonkers?
    Last edited by ragingpup; 07-06-2019 at 12:23 PM.

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