Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
...and just the point I have been trying to make...
rolymiller, your views on this are generally reasonable but ears seem closed to reason. Some Brexit supporters on here seem to have convinced themselves that the EU is a right wing free trade unelected cabal determined to foster widespread youth unemployment. They seem to think leaving will usher in some Socialistic nirvana but I don't think Johnson, Farage and the ERG quite have that in mind. And if they are right then the idea of a high tax interventionist society prospering in close proximity to the EU seems rather naive. And like most Brits they are entirely ignorant of the Irish dimension. Far from the Irish urging a deal on their government polls have repeatedly shown that any Irish party moving to an accommodation with the UK would be destoyed politically. Talk of a "betrayal" over the Second Irish referendum is rubbish. I was there. Since joining the EU Irish living standards rocketted and massive amounts of EU money went into places like Limerick. The Irish shocked themselves with the No vote and quickly realised they could kiss goodbye to all the shiny new tractors. When reality dawned they were more than grateful to reverse the decision.