Derek McInnes

[ZakkTheMakk]

McInnes over-reliance on the British leagues for players are a massive factor in why we under-perform so badly in Europe. Signing players from Championship or below in England who are on ridiculous wages has and never will get us to the hallowed land of the group stages. They are in those leagues for a start because technically they're not very good, they may well be athletic/fast/strong/tall etc but this only gets you so far and when you finally come up against a team like Rijeka who can pass in small triangles, play passes in front of players, hold the ball well and find the killer cross/throughball etc then you'll be found lacking.

This is why a complete overhaul of our first team management, under 21's, youth teams etc need to happen if we're to have any hope of progressing as a club. I'm sure the apologists will say that with this new training facility then that's exactly what will be worked on but we haven't shown enough in the 6 years McInnes has been here to suggest that we'll turn into a Rijeka-esque team any time soon.

So yeah go the foreign route, someone who doesn't throw in the towel before the first game of the season, a manager who won't bend over and accept mediocrity, a manager who understands what success is to supporters and can bring their own brand of exciting football to Pittodrie before the lights go out.

[ToonsClock4am]

Strachan
Darren Ferguson

Theres another 2, and maybe Neil warnock

Strachan's time is up, if it ever wasn't. I couldn't bear listening to the guff he spouts.

[RED_JOHN]

What's the obsession with who specifically would replace him? It's good enough to know the current coach is having a negative affect on the clubs fortunes so he needs to go.

I'd go foreign. Scottish coaches are terrible. An attack minded coach and contrary to what a previous poster says I'd specifically want someone with limited knowledge of Scottish football so he'd come to it completely fresh and unfettered by preconceptions of what is and isn't possible.

Who knows someone like that might even think it's possible to win against anybody, anywhere.

Pretty much agree with all of this. We don’t need another 4-2-2-1 Scottish minded coach. Let’s hope the next manager hasn’t been influenced from the likes of Craig Brown.

[afc1903mad]

There's the Oxford English Dictionary definition of irony right there.

Really?
I don’t come on and criticise at any opportunity. Only when warranted.

[ByeByeScum2012]

We don’t need another 4-2-2-1 Scottish minded coach.

Is that formation for after a sh!t midfielder has been sent off?

[RED_JOHN]

Is that formation for after a sh!t midfielder has been sent off?

Well spotted. I obviously made a mistake but in hindsight it maybe wasn’t a bad one.

[afc1903mad]

What's the obsession with who specifically would replace him? It's good enough to know the current coach is having a negative affect on the clubs fortunes so he needs to go.

I'd go foreign. Scottish coaches are terrible. An attack minded coach and contrary to what a previous poster says I'd specifically want someone with limited knowledge of Scottish football so he'd come to it completely fresh and unfettered by preconceptions of what is and isn't possible.

Who knows someone like that might even think it's possible to win against anybody, anywhere.

Are you describing the Skovdahl experiment.
Successful at Brondby, but not so good here.

If you want to look outside of Aberdeen, how about the Ronny Deila Experiment, or the Pedro Caixinha Experiment, or a bit further back, the Paul Le Guen Experiment.

Or outside the gruesome twosome, Ian Cathro, whilst Scottish had never managed in Scotland (other than a youth team) was a wonderful experiment.

How do you fare Csaba Laslo’s experiments with Hearts and Dundee Utd? Wasn’t he manager of the year at Hearts for getting them to third.

Yes, there’s plenty of examples that we should dump McInnes and hire from abroad

[Devanha Red]

Are you describing the Skovdahl experiment:

No I'm not.

Now as somebody else has told you
to do go and get cracking with updating your "fa's to blame" thread and don't leave out McInnes or folk will start wondering about you.

Chop chop.

[ZakkTheMakk]

Are you describing the Skovdahl experiment.
Successful at Brondby, but not so good here.

If you want to look outside of Aberdeen, how about the Ronny Deila Experiment, or the Pedro Caixinha Experiment, or a bit further back, the Paul Le Guen Experiment.

Or outside the gruesome twosome, Ian Cathro, whilst Scottish had never managed in Scotland (other than a youth team) was a wonderful experiment.

How do you fare Csaba Laslo’s experiments with Hearts and Dundee Utd? Wasn’t he manager of the year at Hearts for getting them to third.

Yes, there’s plenty of examples that we should dump McInnes and hire from abroad

Or we could go down the Paterson route, the Calderwood route, the Mcghee route, the Brown route, plus numerous other Scottish managers such as the Levein route, the Hughes route and so on and so on.

Just because it wasn't effective then doesn't mean it wouldn't be now. You're basically discounting every foreign manager based on what? Ronny Delia won the league did he not? Paul Le Guen wanted to implement a new way of playing and basically the Scottish players weren't having it so Ferguson won over him. In time who knows if his methods would've been successful.

You're almost saying that McInnes is the best we can hope to get and quite frankly that's not true, if it was then we'd be as well shutting shop as nothing in his past records say he's gonna be anything other than what he already is.

[Pacman1903]

Strachan's time is up, if it ever wasn't. I couldn't bear listening to the guff he spouts.

McInnes spouts equal amounts of pish. But a different kind