No deal block

[mickd1961]

I’m loving watching this ramshackle bunch of opposition parties arguing amongst each other.

Listen very carefully......I shall say this only once.......


You won’t stop it happening.


Bye.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

I don't quite understand what you are trying to say. But before the EU, our Parliament managed exactly the same. We have had Parliamentary democracy for hundreds of years.

The first rule of our constitution is that Parliament is sovereign and that takes precedent over a dodgy referendum we had 3 years ago. If you don't like it, go and live somewhere else. We are not a tinpot country ruled by a dictator, Boris Johnson wants to prorogue Parliament to get No Deal through. That's not 'taking back control', its giving control to one bloke who has told everyone what they have wanted to hear without any know-how of how to implement any of it.

And nothing like a nice soundbyte to finish off 'they need us more than we need them'.....its time to recognise if you voted Leave that you've been sold a pack of lies. 27 separate countries have had a clear strategy and have not changed their negotiating position from day one. We have not been able to negotiate a withdrawal agreement that suits us, because there is no withdrawal agreement that hard right leavers would ever approve.

Hoist by your own petard there 123.

'have not changed their negotiating position from day one.'

Exactly so. Either they are intransigent and totally unwilling to negotiate or our whole negotiating strategy was hopelessly inept highlighted by our failure to put No Deal on the table at any time. Had we have done so we would have left in March with a Deal.

[WBA123]

Hoist by your own petard there 123.

'have not changed their negotiating position from day one.'

Exactly so. Either they are intransigent and totally unwilling to negotiate or our whole negotiating strategy was hopelessly inept highlighted by our failure to put No Deal on the table at any time. Had we have done so we would have left in March with a Deal.

You missed the part where he said 'they need us more than we need them'. If that was the case, surely they would have come running to us bending over backwards?

No deal is on the table right now. I can't see that helping with negotiations, can you? So I don't see just how that threat would have helped us before March. The EU know how much of a disaster No Deal will be for us, they're in a great negotiating position. Again, this is all perpetuated by the lies of prominent Leave campaigners.

In fact, the EU have said that in the event of a No Deal, there will be no future negotiation until we pay the £39bn that we owe and given their ability to be credible in these negotiations, then that is probably the case. So if we leave without a deal, we can't negotiate a new deal until we pay the £39bn, that we actually owe.

Bearing in mind, we are already spending £6bn on 'mitigating the effects' of a No Deal and we have no idea how many billions we would likely lose out on before or after a No Deal. Its not looking very good for us in my book.

[Dubbag]

I’m loving watching this ramshackle bunch of opposition parties arguing amongst each other.

Listen very carefully......I shall say this only once.......


You won’t stop it happening.


Bye.

I agree...at least I hope you are right. I really can not see an extension been helpful to either side. From that point ...I certainly hope the UK is out at 31 of October.
The feeling over here is...... "Be done with it." People living on both sides of the border are rightly very concerned.
On the 1st of November let the negotiations begin in the new reality.
But just go out deal or no deal....

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

You missed the part where he said 'they need us more than we need them'. If that was the case, surely they would have come running to us bending over backwards?

No deal is on the table right now. I can't see that helping with negotiations, can you? So I don't see just how that threat would have helped us before March. The EU know how much of a disaster No Deal will be for us, they're in a great negotiating position. Again, this is all perpetuated by the lies of prominent Leave campaigners.

In fact, the EU have said that in the event of a No Deal, there will be no future negotiation until we pay the £39bn that we owe and given their ability to be credible in these negotiations, then that is probably the case. So if we leave without a deal, we can't negotiate a new deal until we pay the £39bn, that we actually owe.

Bearing in mind, we are already spending £6bn on 'mitigating the effects' of a No Deal and we have no idea how many billions we would likely lose out on before or after a No Deal. Its not looking very good for us in my book.

I am so so glad I'm not in your book!

[albion68]

Hello Board Gobsh1te, it's been a while...

Yes, so simple! Boris is absolutely one to trust. It's not like he got sacked for lying before he became an MP, or that it is unknown how many children he has with how many women, because he has several NDAs in place.

At least he's competent in his job, its not like he accidentally added time onto the jail term of a British Citizen arrested for 'spying' in Iran with his public comments, or that he plundered £50m on a bridge that was never built.

I'm sure you can definitely trust his word, like when he closed 10 fire stations as London Mayor and told us we were safer because of it.

Tell me Village Idiot, what is it that particularly draws you to Johnson's trustworthiness?

k. Nob tell me which mp as never lied to the people yes thought so.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

k. Nob tell me which mp as never lied to the people yes thought so.

This is so true. If you ask me who in my lifetime has been the 'nicest' bloke then I would answer James Callaghan. If you then ask me who was the worst PM I would answer James Callaghan (although Brown comes close.)

[boingy]

I have nothing but total disdain for any who now are trying to block the process. Our Prime minister is busting a gut trying to either A get a deal or B walk away without one. Meanwhile this bunch of low lifes who have had 3 YEARS TO SUPPORT THE RESULT OF THE REFERENDUM which was to come out of the EU obviously with or without a deal depending on how flexible (that's a laugh) the EU is. No different to Guy fawkes without the dynamite. Clueless wasters. Should all be sacked or move to a communist country where they can force what they want. None of these so called politicians can be trusted with the vote of the people.

[rambaggie]

Agreed there boingy

[albion68]

I have nothing but total disdain for any who now are trying to block the process. Our Prime minister is busting a gut trying to either A get a deal or B walk away without one. Meanwhile this bunch of low lifes who have had 3 YEARS TO SUPPORT THE RESULT OF THE REFERENDUM which was to come out of the EU obviously with or without a deal depending on how flexible (that's a laugh) the EU is. No different to Guy fawkes without the dynamite. Clueless wasters. Should all be sacked or move to a communist country where they can force what they want. None of these so called politicians can be trusted with the vote of the people.

boingy no matter what’s on the table this lot would vote it down ,hidden agends mate.just look at Dominic grieve if that’s how you spell it,got a nice posh pad in France .