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Thread: O/T Democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I know that you won't accept it, Biggie and I am not going to engage you in a WanChai style circular argument, but you are plain, vanilla wrong on this.

    The government declined to provide any evidence to the court upon the reason for proroguation. The court had to decide if it had jurisdiction in the matter and then whether the government had acted reasonably and rationally. In the absence of any evidence from the government, the court was entitled to draw its own conclusions.
    The separation of powers does not give the court the right to question the reason a political decision was taken and should never ever have had the chance to do so. Political decisions do not belong in the hands of none political none elected people. These judges practice law not politics and are in no way attuned to political matters. That is the truth of it no matter what you say or think.

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    Democracy and dinosaurs, both begin with D and both are extinct in the UK

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    The scene has now been set people. You and I as common people are no better than peasants and the law has given the wealthy the means to keep us peasants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    The scene has now been set people. You and I as common people are no better than peasants and the law has given the wealthy the means to keep us peasants.
    That is of course true, but remember that revenge is a dish best served cold.

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    I cant wait to see you lot on here who are happy about what has just happened come back and bite you an the aras. You seriously do not understand what has just happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    It is not anti democratic to give parliament what it wanted, it had been saying for months that a new queens speech was needed and that an Election was warranted and all Boris did was do what had been called for and suddenly because the people who had called for it decided that the time for an election was not politically good for them they had the law fight their battle for them.
    The law says it's undemocratic and Johnson is a liar and that's what it is .

    Your entitled to your opinion biglad but the highest court in the land says different which makes it a fact .

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    TaKe it on the chin biglad there are a lot of laws I don't like but I have to accept them or risk being banged up. Rich folk like Boris will always get away with much more than you and I so he should count him sen lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    The law says it's undemocratic and Johnson is a liar and that's what it is .

    Your entitled to your opinion biglad but the highest court in the land says different which makes it a fact .
    Yes we know it is a fact but are the reasons given for the verdict fact or is it opinion or even did the judges rule with the intention of opening doors that were not there to open before.

    Whoever wins the next GE will find out if the law is going to hinder political decisions or not but my guess is that from now on any laws made by any government will not only have to pass the house of commons and the house of lords but also the law too. A sad day for democracy.

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    Roly, are you and Mike father and son, brothers, wingmen or lovers ? I'm genuinely curious given your Little and Large impression that you do. I can't believe that you are strangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    The separation of powers does not give the court the right to question the reason a political decision was taken and should never ever have had the chance to do so. Political decisions do not belong in the hands of none political none elected people. These judges practice law not politics and are in no way attuned to political matters. That is the truth of it no matter what you say or think.
    The Supreme Court disagrees with you and the clue is in the word 'Supreme'.

    Political decisions should be taken on reasonable and rational grounds if we are to have a functioning democracy.

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