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Thread: O/T - general election 2019

  1. #1561
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    Kerr, good morning. Some of those most sanguine about Labour reinventing itself and moving serenely back to the centre fail imo to understand the political animal. In April 1945 with the Russians in Berlin and Hitler in the bunker several in the Nazi hierarchy were engaging in a despearte struggle to secure their position as his successor. Labour will probably be consumed by a long internal struggle and McCluskey and Momentum will be more concerned with possessing the corpse rather than reviving it. Wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post

    At least Wanchai realises the Brexit party actually assisted Labour in the Northern Heartlands.
    In other areas though they took votes away from Labour which helped the Tories win, so it probably balanced out, maybe actually benefited the Tories overall since the Tory vote only actually went up 1.2%, they only won because the Labour vote went down 7.9% and many of those votes went to the Brexit Party.

    I still think our electoral system is unfair though, the Brexit Party and Green Party should have seats and even though I don't like the Lib Dems, they got 11.6% of the vote and 11 seats whereas the SNP got 3.9% of the vote and 48 seats, which is ridiculous.
    Last edited by great_fire; 14-12-2019 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    In other areas though they took votes away from Labour which helped the Tories win, so it probably balanced out, maybe actually benefited the Tories overall since the Tory vote only actually went up 1.2%, they only won because the Labour vote went down 7.9% and many of those votes went to the Brexit Party.

    I still think our electoral system is unfair though, the Brexit Party and Green Party should have seats and even though I don't like the Lib Dems, they got 11.6% of the vote and 11 seats whereas the SNP got 3.9% of the vote and 48 seats, which is ridiculous.
    We've had a referendum on that and first past the post won .

    Be careful how you reply to that Fire or you'll end up sounding like Jo Swinson .

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    We've had a referendum on that and first past the post won .

    Be careful how you reply to that Fire or you'll end up sounding like Jo Swinson .
    We didn't have the choice of true PR, only the complicated Alternative Vote system, no wonder people rejected that.

    I think every vote should count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Dont hold your breath for what? To see if I enter your p*ssing contest?
    There we have it. Dress it up how you want.

    Constant preaching on how taxes should be increased and redistributed.

    Another expert on spending ‘other people’s money’

    You get a bit back you don’t like it.

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    Anyone see last night on news the amount of protesters down London protesting against democracy, if you didn’t links below

    https://news.sky.com/video/anti-john...reets-11885868

    Let’s be fair it is the Tory’s fault for them protesting, I mean if the didn’t cut school funds they would be properly educated

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post
    I’ll make it £100 if Ragingpup and Wanchaimiller put £50 in each for the cause and be happy to do so.

    Neither of them had any objection to paying higher taxes, so it shouldn’t be a problem 🤔

    Don’t hold your breath. We’ll just wait for the excuses or the, ‘who are you to dictate how I spend my money’ .... the irony.

    At least Wanchai realises the Brexit party actually assisted Labour in the Northern Heartlands.

    It could have been a lot worse. If McCluskey get’s his way, still time for that.

    Still funniest thing in this election was

    Jo Swinson

    Oblivious. Irrelevant and complete waste of space.
    I'll put up the £50 happily, and without you having to contribute anything if you volunteer for one night to work for the Sheffield soup kitchen. I can fix it up for you to meet my niece who regularly work there.

    Not all about flashing the wad around. You just sound like an unpleasant **** tbh.

    Deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    I'll put up the £50 happily, and without you having to contribute anything if you volunteer for one night to work for the Sheffield soup kitchen. I can fix it up for you to meet my niece who regularly work there.

    Not all about flashing the wad around. You just sound like an unpleasant **** tbh.

    Deal?
    Jeez, raging, you've got Jewish relatives supporting anti-semite Corbyn, you've got Brexit pals in Rotherham, Muslim co-workers who all like gays and support womens rights and now your niece works in a soup kitchen. I give up. You're the man. You are clearly almost as great a guy as Roly.

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    And so it begins , didn't take long did it .


    https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...-lbc-1-6425258

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    Quote Originally Posted by wendun View Post
    Jeez, raging, you've got Jewish relatives supporting anti-semite Corbyn, you've got Brexit pals in Rotherham, Muslim co-workers who all like gays and support womens rights and now your niece works in a soup kitchen. I give up. You're the man. You are clearly almost as great a guy as Roly.
    Not quite accurate Monts. Wife remained very supportive of Corbyn, but rest of her family wanted him out 2 years ago and probably would have voted Libs if they were serious rivals to the tories in their area.

    Yep, proud of my family, but less so of Brexity pals, especially Big K, the fat useless, gloating ****! I'll be meeting him in Bramley for beers on Xmas eve for beers and abuse. Any cynics welcome to join me. Big K is a gammony lard arse but he'll happily confirm all I say to be true. So weird, that people take what to me to be normal everyday family and working life to be something remarkable. So very sad. But very happy to meet for beers. I'm actually very friendly even with folk I disagree with, as my lifelong friendship with Big K demonstrates. Genuinely would be nice to meet anyone for beer whilst I'm up there

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