Royals v Rams

[Rob_the_Ram]

Stop ya moaning and get up to Wigan on Boxing Day and support the lads.
Merry Christmas one and all.

[swaledale]

Stop ya moaning and get up to Wigan on Boxing Day and support the lads.
Merry Christmas one and all.

I'd rather stick pins in my eyeballs than watch this shower of ****e! Theres maybe 3 players in this team who I think deserve to pick up their wages the rest, should be paying 50% to charity!

[swaledale]

I can't ever remember being this happy with a 3-0 defeat. Forget the result. The performance with 10 men from the 4th minute on was way above anything we have seen in the past half a dozen, maybe more.

No arguments with their penalty or the red card. Law of averages dictates he would get one decision right. They got away with a lot, we got away with nowt. The foul on Lowe should have been given. Many a ref would have given the penalty when when Bielik was brought down. Most would have given the Knight one.

Their 2nd penalty was also one. Fozzy only got a yellow due to the new interpretation of the "last man" Law and the double jeopardy. His foul was in a genuine attempt to get the ball so just a yellow.

Yellow cards. Way too many for comfort but many were asked for.

Bogle kicked out at his man. deserved.
Forsyth, last man and double jeopardy rule, deserved.
Malone, two anded push in the back, last defender, deserved.
Knight, left his right foot in there, asking for it to be taken. Not sure if there was contact or not. Either way, I don't think it was a penalty. If there was contact then he shouldn't have had a card.
Sibley yellow. The one weakness in the lad. He does have a temperament, however, I think it was the afters as opposed to the foul that led to his card. Foul by all means but then walk away.
Holmes, on a tightrope through the game. It was coming.
Lawrence. Can't tackle shouldn't tackle.
Lowe. Usually very mild mannered. Brought down a couple of times but didn't get the fouls he should have, got beaten for speed a couple of times, got frustrated at the ref's homership and put ina foul that deserved yellow.

I liked the way they played when down to 10 men. We had 14 shots, they had 16. Us 7 on target, them 6. We hit the woodwork twice. It's what we want to see from the lads. Now to repeat that at Wigan and keep 11 men on the park.

Knight far and away the MOTM IMO.

The ref. Like the fans sang....... "sh*t refs, we always get sh*t refs".
Got their penos right, should have given us 2 as well. Absolute homer. Not what the fans were calling him but he is also a homer.

If this is indicative of what we have coming up in the near future then we might have a half decent season after all.

I will come back and show you this thread later on in the season. IMO we got what we deserved for a completely unprofessional display - its easy to play reasonably well when the pressure is off and the team knew they were going to lose from the 5th minute!

I saw no evidence of improvement only a team that is very likely to be in the relegation zone come the end of january!

[Geoff Parkstone]

You really do post some crap and I would be careful about posting insults online......

Am I alone in thinking pot, kettle, black?

[MadAmster]

I will come back and show you this thread later on in the season. IMO we got what we deserved for a completely unprofessional display - its easy to play reasonably well when the pressure is off and the team knew they were going to lose from the 5th minute!

I saw no evidence of improvement only a team that is very likely to be in the relegation zone come the end of january!

Why? All I have done is comment on yesterday's 90 minutes which was a great improvement on recent performances. We have been lucky to get 1 shot on target recently. Yesterday we had 7 plus 2 that hit the woodwork. There was energy, we looked to play forwards rather than sideways or backwards. We played some decent stuff at times.

Nowhere have I written we are out of the doldrums or that we have turned the corner. Read the last sentence of my post that you quoted.......

If this is indicative of what we have coming up in the near future then we might have a half decent season after all.

The words IF at the start and MIGHT halfway through indicate that I refer to a possibility rather than a probability. Your reply intimates that I have written that we are on the way up. I haven't.

[ramAnag]

Basically you are full of false optimism, see hope where there is none and insist we are "unlucky" to be where we are!

The table doesn't lie and so much of it is self inflicted, another penalty needlessly given away, these plyers are supposed to be professionals on £10K a week and more FFS!

So now we are 11 pts off 6th place and heading for the danger zone, the team look a shambles, which to be fair has been the case since the end of September. Cannot see Cocu being in place much past the New year if this continues and Rooney joining seems to have increased the decline - wouldn't be surprised to see him get sent off in his first game tbh.

We haven't even got a winnable FA Cup tie to look forward to and ease the miser of watching this utter tosh.

‘Full of false optimism?’ Moi?

Couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m actually mightily pissed off about events in both the country and DCFC.

Just can’t see the point of adopting your ‘angry old man’ persona and having a dig at just about everyone on here - DCFCA apart of course which is entirely justified.

Can’t recall describing us as ‘unlucky’ recently although I do think Cocu has been dogged by bad luck, misfortune and circumstances beyond his control...and that that will change.

As for being a ‘shambles’ since September. That’s just not true. There was an incident in September which completely destabilised the club and for which I don’t think Cocu can be blamed.

Since then we’ve actually had a very good home run and the performance against Boro’ was arguably the best for two years or more. Unfortunately as soon as Cocu started to use that ‘round pegs in round holes’ formation some crucial personnel were immediately injured.

So yes...there’s a lot wrong, the away form is dreadful, a lot that has to be changed, it’s been a miserable season so far, we’re all disappointed and I’m sure your attitude to all that has happened and everyone on here will help a lot.

[swaledale]

Am I alone in thinking pot, kettle, black?

Theres a difference between an exchange of banter between posters on here and insulting well known public figures online who may if they choose take action, its happened before!

[swaledale]

‘Full of false optimism?’ Moi?

Couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m actually mightily pissed off about events in both the country and DCFC.

Just can’t see the point of adopting your ‘angry old man’ persona and having a dig at just about everyone on here - DCFCA apart of course which is entirely justified.

Can’t recall describing us as ‘unlucky’ recently although I do think Cocu has been dogged by bad luck, misfortune and circumstances beyond his control...and that that will change.

As for being a ‘shambles’ since September. That’s just not true. There was an incident in September which completely destabilised the club and for which I don’t think Cocu can be blamed.

Since then we’ve actually had a very good home run and the performance against Boro’ was arguably the best for two years or more. Unfortunately as soon as Cocu started to use that ‘round pegs in round holes’ formation some crucial personnel were immediately injured.

So yes...there’s a lot wrong, the away form is dreadful, a lot that has to be changed, it’s been a miserable season so far, we’re all disappointed and I’m sure your attitude to all that has happened and everyone on here will help a lot.

So Cocu cannot be blamed for how the players behave? Mm not so certain your right on that front. As for our home from, well its been a mixed bag certainly but from what I've seen very poor over the whole game. I called the team out in September, as lacking firepower, dire tactics and its got worse not better. Sure one can cite injuries, but the decision making by the players as demonstrated by conceding two needless penalties, the level of play the sheer awfulness of watching the team is down to Cocu.

Boro are a shambles, the performance was better than we have seen for most of this season, the best for two years is meaningless hyperbole. We shall see won't we? But IMO we will be bottom half or worse come the end of February.

So describing our team as a shower of ****e is going to affect the poor overpaid darlings? It must be hard picking up more in a month than most people earn in a year and then being absolutely dire on the pitch!

[mistaram]

You really do post some crap and I would be careful about posting insults online - Frank could decide to take umbrage and has deeper pockets than you, not that I woudl think he cares about crap spouted by an ignorant wassock like you!

Says you who doesn't have the first idea about what went on. Lampard could only respond to an offer when Chelsea made it - everything was done according to the book, permission was asked and granted and appropriate compensation paid - how is it up to either the club or Lampard as to the timing of the offer? It could have come mid season.

As has been said, how do you know we even asked for a loan player from Chelsea?

Its more and more looking like Cocu's appointment was a mistake and I'm not entirely sure what Rooney adds to the mix either, apart from an attractive financial deal.

Swales don't waste your time with him More brains in a block of cheese

[ramAnag]

So Cocu cannot be blamed for how the players behave? Mm not so certain your right on that front. As for our home from, well its been a mixed bag certainly but from what I've seen very poor over the whole game. I called the team out in September, as lacking firepower, dire tactics and its got worse not better. Sure one can cite injuries, but the decision making by the players as demonstrated by conceding two needless penalties, the level of play the sheer awfulness of watching the team is down to Cocu.

Boro are a shambles, the performance was better than we have seen for most of this season, the best for two years is meaningless hyperbole. We shall see won't we? But IMO we will be bottom half or worse come the end of February.

So describing our team as a shower of ****e is going to affect the poor overpaid darlings? It must be hard picking up more in a month than most people earn in a year and then being absolutely dire on the pitch!

I don’t see how Cocu can be blamed for the behaviour of specific adults in their own time when he is not present...no. Unless you’re also going to blame Klopp for Firmino’s drink driving and every other manager for the misdemeanours of their playing staff.

Of course Cocu cannot abdicate responsibility for poor performances...neither is he entirely responsible for them. The missing of crucial penalties and the conceding of unnecessary ones has far more to do with our league position and as far as I’m aware Cocu isn’t to blame for either of those.

The argument about footballers being overpaid prima donnas is new to this thread and not one I disagree with however your attitude of having a go at all the players - and those on here who try to remain positive - is all too symptomatic of certain Derby fans imo.

PP is a bloody awful place to play when the fans turn against you as I’m sure Roos, Keogh, Ince, Waghorn and Cyrus Christie - to name but a few - will readily testify.

The players are currently devoid of confidence and being under a barrage of criticism - some justified, some not - from supporters at the ground, on forums like this and from a certain ex player turned commentator (I use the term loosely) on Radio Derby helps no one.