O/T Coronavirus Thread (3)

[Exiletyke]

What do you think to the Coronavirus plan must tackle climate change stuff coming out today kerr on the bbc website. Personally I think now is the time to do it. We are all one step on the ladder there with the lockdown. We can't go back to where we were before. Now is the time
Global response to global problems.grasp the nettle and all that...can't see me trump being interested tho

roly I wish I could share your view that we can't go back to where we were but sadly I think the forces of capitalism & greed will prevail once again [in due course]

[KerrAvon]

roly I wish I could share your view that we can't go back to where we were but sadly I think the forces of capitalism & greed will prevail once again [in due course]

If you think that Socialism has the answers to climate change, you should check out Chernobyl, the destruction of the Aral Sea and many of the other environmental ‘benefits’ brought to the Soviet Union by that economic system.

On greed, you are getting there. Addressing climate change means people giving up some of the things that they currently demand, such as cheap and plentiful air travel and large scale red meat consumption. I question whether people will do that; a poster on here who bangs the environmental drum accused me of being a ‘fascist’ for suggesting that he might cut his red meat consumptions as his contribution to the cause.

[Exiletyke]

If you think that Socialism has the answers to climate change, you should check out Chernobyl, the destruction of the Aral Sea and many of the other environmental ‘benefits’ brought to the Soviet Union by that economic system.

On greed, you are getting there. Addressing climate change means people giving up some of the things that they currently demand, such as cheap and plentiful air travel and large scale red meat consumption. I question whether people will do that; a poster on here who bangs the environmental drum accused me of being a ‘fascist’ for suggesting that he might cut his red meat consumptions as his contribution to the cause.

Where have I said Socialism has the answer to climate change
but thanks for your heads up re the catastrohies I'll probably come across 3 Mile Island no doubt
On greed I think you must be towards the top of the list with your freqent skiing trips ,your travels to the south of France ,your visit to Paris to watch the Six Nations your trip to St Lucia & judging by your life style many other trips abroad don't preach about greed

[KerrAvon]

Where have I said Socialism has the answer to climate change
but thanks for your heads up re the catastrohies I'll probably come across 3 Mile Island no doubt
On greed I think you must be towards the top of the list with your freqent skiing trips ,your travels to the south of France ,your visit to Paris to watch the Six Nations your trip to St Lucia & judging by your life style many other trips abroad don't preach about greed

Your ability to get the point whilst simultaneously missing it is a sight to behold, Zyles. It's a talent.

Through a combination of luck and hard work, I have achieved a lifestyle that is comfortable by the standards of many. The point is, however, that you and Roly have, in relative terms, a comfortable lifestyle too. Every day thousands of people mortgage themselves to people traffickers and take their lives in their hand in the back of containers or in small boats to try to get to this country in order to have a bit of what you take for granted.

Roly demands that we address climate change whilst simultaneously defending his right to eat red meat and drive into the Peak District instead of walking from his home. He has defined a decent standard of living as one foreign holiday per year. And that’s the point too. People are great at talking about change, but scratch beneath the surface and it’s generally the case that they think that it’s other people who should be doing the changing.

[Exiletyke]

Your ability to get the point whilst simultaneously missing it is a sight to behold, Zyles. It's a talent.

Through a combination of luck and hard work, I have achieved a lifestyle that is comfortable by the standards of many. The point is, however, that you and Roly have, in relative terms, a comfortable lifestyle too. Every day thousands of people mortgage themselves to people traffickers and take their lives in their hand in the back of containers or in small boats to try to get to this country in order to have a bit of what you take for granted.

Roly demands that we address climate change whilst simultaneously defending his right to eat red meat and drive into the Peak District instead of walking from his home. He has defined a decent standard of living as one foreign holiday per year. And that’s the point too. People are great at talking about change, but scratch beneath the surface and it’s generally the case that they think that it’s other people who should be doing the changing.

Perhaps you could explain what my lifestyle is seeing as you seem to know