On this day -trivia

[Trickytreesreds]

Went blind in later life, usually attributed to heading the old 'casey'!
Derby legend!

I didn't know that mac.
It does make you wonder though, when and where football changed?
it only seems 5 mins ago, you had eleven players and one sub.
Same side played week in, week out.
Remember Butcher and his blood covered shirt and head wrapped like a mummy?

Now days, the wind knocks them over and they complain how tired they are all the time.

[Andy_Faber]

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It does make you wonder though, when and where football changed?

The answer IMO is the triple whammy of the Bradford fire, The Heysel Disater and, soon after, Hillsborough which gave the authorities the moral justification for telling the game to reform, then TV money which actually gave the game an incentive to do so. I watched Heysel's aftermath live and The Bradford fire rerun uncensored the same afternoon, and had a then-family member thought in the moment to be in the Hillsborough crush (he wasn't) and by the time all that and a few other incidents had transpired I had a bitter feeling about football despite my love for Derby.

[Trickytreesreds]

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It does make you wonder though, when and where football changed?

The answer IMO is the triple whammy of the Bradford fire, The Heysel Disater and, soon after, Hillsborough which gave the authorities the moral justification for telling the game to reform, then TV money which actually gave the game an incentive to do so. I watched Heysel's aftermath live and The Bradford fire rerun uncensored the same afternoon, and had a then-family member thought in the moment to be in the Hillsborough crush (he wasn't) and by the time all that and a few other incidents had transpired I had a bitter feeling about football despite my love for Derby.

Interesting reply Andy and I get that.
I was more thinking on the lines of the players themselves.
Tough as old leather, no moaning. Physically take punishment like a SBS trainee.
Now? Such delicate flowers and no interest in anything a pay cheque isn't covering.

[Andy_Faber]

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Interesting reply Andy and I get that.
I was more thinking on the lines of the players themselves.
Tough as old leather, no moaning. Physically take punishment like a SBS trainee.
Now? Such delicate flowers and no interest in anything a pay cheque isn't covering.

Dno the exact answer on that, I've heard it say that teams of today would thrash teams of the 70s through greater athletic fitness if nothing else, but that ignores one thing: Its OK saying Mo Salah would give Norman Hunter the runaround if they ever come head to head, but he'd struggle to do that if he was unfit, kicked to **** by Ron Harris, Peter Storey or any one of a dozen (genuine) hard men the week before