[QUOTE=Trickytreesreds;39486494]
It does make you wonder though, when and where football changed?

The answer IMO is the triple whammy of the Bradford fire, The Heysel Disater and, soon after, Hillsborough which gave the authorities the moral justification for telling the game to reform, then TV money which actually gave the game an incentive to do so. I watched Heysel's aftermath live and The Bradford fire rerun uncensored the same afternoon, and had a then-family member thought in the moment to be in the Hillsborough crush (he wasn't) and by the time all that and a few other incidents had transpired I had a bitter feeling about football despite my love for Derby.