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    Quote Originally Posted by abbobrom View Post
    My wife is an infant teacher and was in school all through the lockdown, looking after children of essential workers. Although it is reported that children are unlikely to catch Covid 19, there is nothing to say that they can not transport the disease. They live with adults, and we all know that all adults are not responsible citizens.

    As the situation eased and some of the other children ventured back, it was common place for the children to say they had been to some pub or other for their tea. Obviously mixing with people outside the family bubble.

    Teaching is not an easy job, although many think it is. My wife easily clocks up a sixty hour working week, often not home till nine pm, and still working after midnight. She leaves the house at 7.20 am and is in school before eight.

    I am surprised that all the people who criticize teachers and accuse them of having an easy life, don't get themselves a degree, and join the profession, After all, they only work 9 to 4 and have all those holidays.

    Good post! I know more teachers than not work damn hard, around the clock, and are dedicated to the kids they teach. Some teachers though don't go the extra mile - with mixed abilities they can't be bothered extending the kids who are really bright and more emphasis is placed on kids who are struggling. No wonder some parents want selection! Bit like a talented footballer practicing with an individual who can't kick a ball. I am also old fashioned and like teachers who know the meaning of discipline. Sadly some teachers can't control the little
    s hit/s hits in the class and the rest suffer. At parents evening you can tell the teachers who are inspiring/love their jobs ( the majority ) and those who come across as exciting as Dianne Abbott in a nightie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    What happens if I have a problem with my c o c k?

    That did make me smile...
    I hope the piles behave so...that could be an even trickery shot to have to take...

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    Not some much Docs but the hospital. A couple weeks back an elderly relative of mine collapsed inside the market hall in Blackpool. This was brought on by the flippin muzzle she didn't have to wear but wore it due to market stall holders 'saying stuff' and many uncomfortable looks. The muzzle bought on hypoxia and triggered her heart condition.

    Anyway the hospital granted me exceptional visiting access. I had to contact the ward in advance to visit in order to book an appointment. When I attended i was then issued with a security badge to hang round me neck. I was then asked to follow a nurse to a security reception where they checked my appointment time

    I was then asked several identity questions, then I had a photo taken which i waited 40 mins while they processed my application and then the photo was inserted into the security badge. I was told the ID must be worn prominently at all times and is dated. When my 20 mins were i up i was then escorted back to reception and my ID was handed back. My attendance was all strictly adhered to.

    The building was eerily quiet, considering what hospitals were like before the corona Understandable precautions but it really did feel like i was entering a top security MI5 building of some sort. Even when this is all over I cannot see hospitals ever returning to how it was before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbobrom View Post
    My wife is an infant teacher and was in school all through the lockdown, looking after children of essential workers. Although it is reported that children are unlikely to catch Covid 19, there is nothing to say that they can not transport the disease. They live with adults, and we all know that all adults are not responsible citizens.

    As the situation eased and some of the other children ventured back, it was common place for the children to say they had been to some pub or other for their tea. Obviously mixing with people outside the family bubble.

    Teaching is not an easy job, although many think it is. My wife easily clocks up a sixty hour working week, often not home till nine pm, and still working after midnight. She leaves the house at 7.20 am and is in school before eight.

    I am surprised that all the people who criticize teachers and accuse them of having an easy life, don't get themselves a degree, and join the profession, After all, they only work 9 to 4 and have all those holidays.
    I don’t think Teachers have an easy job as I’d imagine many kids are like their parents, a part of the self righteous self entitled brigade who simply refuse to do what’s asked of them. Add in the problems with drug taking and the PC zealots and that makes teaching these kids a tall order.

    Where my patience wains is in cases like I had last week. Was talking to a retired teacher who was telling me that no profession has the stress levels or requires the sheer hard commitment that teaching does. It’s people like this that imo get people’s backs up which often leads to the criticism that many of these people have never left the classroom and fail to understand the wider world. We’ve rampant unemployment, small and large businesses dying on their ar*es, it’s a bloody tough world out there. We’ve all got it tough, some unfairly tough with little income. I don’t think teaching is easy but Teachers are not unique in putting in long hours and getting stressed but at least they’re not losing their jobs. Some fail to grasp this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes39 View Post
    I don’t think Teachers have an easy job as I’d imagine many kids are like their parents, a part of the self righteous self entitled brigade who simply refuse to do what’s asked of them. Add in the problems with drug taking and the PC zealots and that makes teaching these kids a tall order.

    Where my patience wains is in cases like I had last week. Was talking to a retired teacher who was telling me that no profession has the stress levels or requires the sheer hard commitment that teaching does. It’s people like this that imo get people’s backs up which often leads to the criticism that many of these people have never left the classroom and fail to understand the wider world. We’ve rampant unemployment, small and large businesses dying on their ar*es, it’s a bloody tough world out there. We’ve all got it tough, some unfairly tough with little income. I don’t think teaching is easy but Teachers are not unique in putting in long hours and getting stressed but at least they’re not losing their jobs. Some fail to grasp this.
    While I agree with you on some parts of your post, I must however, take you to task about the section where you state "they're not losing their jobs".

    That may have been the case years ago, when the job was fairly secure, but it certainly isn't now. Social media has caused all sorts of problems for teachers, when keyboard warriors can print what they want with no comeback. Heads often side with the parents, rather than support their staff, easier than rocking the boat. They are terrified that they will lose numbers, which in turn invites the inspectorate in to the building. Each child that leaves, cost the school money. Easier to lose a teacher and replace with a younger one who are paid less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbobrom View Post
    While I agree with you on some parts of your post, I must however, take you to task about the section where you state "they're not losing their jobs".

    That may have been the case years ago, when the job was fairly secure, but it certainly isn't now. Social media has caused all sorts of problems for teachers, when keyboard warriors can print what they want with no comeback. Heads often side with the parents, rather than support their staff, easier than rocking the boat. They are terrified that they will lose numbers, which in turn invites the inspectorate in to the building. Each child that leaves, cost the school money. Easier to lose a teacher and replace with a younger one who are paid less.
    Yet again, bang on. We see that over here as well. Parents have def become a work enviromental health issue/hazard, and heads/principals do not support their staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbobrom View Post
    While I agree with you on some parts of your post, I must however, take you to task about the section where you state "they're not losing their jobs".

    That may have been the case years ago, when the job was fairly secure, but it certainly isn't now. Social media has caused all sorts of problems for teachers, when keyboard warriors can print what they want with no comeback. Heads often side with the parents, rather than support their staff, easier than rocking the boat. They are terrified that they will lose numbers, which in turn invites the inspectorate in to the building. Each child that leaves, cost the school money. Easier to lose a teacher and replace with a younger one who are paid less.

    Totally agree with you. How many schools have been rocked with " black lives matter " ie students coming out of the woodwork years later and saying they were victims of racist attacks etc and naming teachers! Plastered across social media so appalling!

    My only issues are in many classes bright students are not given adequate extension work as the emphasis is always placed on children who need extra support and bringing them up the the required level. In most subjects, students excel more with like minded students at the same ability level whether it be tennis or academics - Selective Grammar Schools need to be increased and bollox to the " it's weakening other schools where kids are not so bright or couldn't be bothered "

    In teacher training more emphasis should be placed on discipline - the majority of teachers know how to control a class but some are too weak and here lies another problem.

    Does annoy me though when some teachers have been off work since March and then starting to whinge about going back to school. Perhaps they should look at all the other key workers who have worked throughout! I am sure it's safer in a classroom than in a supermarket or enclosed shopping centre with no fresh air!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Totally agree with you. How many schools have been rocked with " black lives matter " ie students coming out of the woodwork years later and saying they were victims of racist attacks etc and naming teachers! Plastered across social media so appalling!

    My only issues are in many classes bright students are not given adequate extension work as the emphasis is always placed on children who need extra support and bringing them up the the required level. In most subjects, students excel more with like minded students at the same ability level whether it be tennis or academics - Selective Grammar Schools need to be increased and bollox to the " it's weakening other schools where kids are not so bright or couldn't be bothered "

    In teacher training more emphasis should be placed on discipline - the majority of teachers know how to control a class but some are too weak and here lies another problem.

    Does annoy me though when some teachers have been off work since March and then starting to whinge about going back to school. Perhaps they should look at all the other key workers who have worked throughout! I am sure it's safer in a classroom than in a supermarket or enclosed shopping centre with no fresh air!
    It was better back in the 70’s......our classes weren’t held back by the dumbos.

    The houseplants were put in specialists classes all together and allowed to put plastercine and Lego up their noses.

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    Bet they knew how to spell plasticine though 😉 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbobrom View Post
    While I agree with you on some parts of your post, I must however, take you to task about the section where you state "they're not losing their jobs".

    That may have been the case years ago, when the job was fairly secure, but it certainly isn't now. Social media has caused all sorts of problems for teachers, when keyboard warriors can print what they want with no comeback. Heads often side with the parents, rather than support their staff, easier than rocking the boat. They are terrified that they will lose numbers, which in turn invites the inspectorate in to the building. Each child that leaves, cost the school money. Easier to lose a teacher and replace with a younger one who are paid less.
    I meant not losing their jobs on a wide scale in the way 7000 M&S staff are losing their jobs. That said, I agree with your comments.

    A very close friend of mine teaches under 10’s and she’s had appalling behaviour to put up with which at times has made her ill. She too said that the school often side with the parents to keep the peace as the leadership in many schools is complete sh* t and many of these people wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the commercial world as they’re a law unto themselves.

    She said it’s common that parents come down the school and physically threaten teachers only to have the headmaster hush it all up etc etc. Then the parents and kids write all sorts of libellous comments on social media and they wonder why teachers leave the profession. Sadly as we’ve seen with Covid, some of these kids are the next generation of self entitled idiots who the unfortunate teachers get given.

    So yes, I agree with you but was really making the point that a handful of teachers and ex teachers don’t seem to grasp that many other people also have significant challenges and stress to put up with in their line of work albeit in different ways.

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