A Perfect Storm

[laddo]

How about we employ Big Sam!

Decent shout but I'd worry he would get off to a horrific start and hardly win a game in his first 4 months in charge.

[uysapie]

Decent shout but I'd worry he would get off to a horrific start and hardly win a game in his first 4 months in charge.

Then walk the league next season, promoted by March!

[laddo]

Then walk the league next season, promoted by March!

Yup, just shows you anything can happen.

Went from one of the worst seasons to one of the best the very next season.

[crazyfists]

I thank God we've got these owners as I believe they understand how a club like ours has the best chance of success in the modern game. Long gone are the days of the maverick one off manager as getting a really good one isn't easy as we can all testify to. Added to that if he does well he'll get snapped up by a bigger club. Then (if you use the old model) we waste time and money changing out managers, coaching staff and playing staff. Rinse and repeat as we go down the leagues.

Or we could build a system where if the head coach does well and leaves then another steps in to take his place but this is pretty much seemless because of the ethos and style of play the club is known for. This should in theory not stop the momentum of the successful head coach. Everyone quotes Brentford but teams like Swansea and Southampton also have been doing it awhile.

As a club we can't afford to swap out everything and everyone each time we get a new manager with a different style. We've seen IB try to go more attacking which in turn has led to some criticism of him and the owners but this isn't his team or his players. With the method the owners now employ then this should be the last time we completely swap out playing styles etc. I think it's the best chance we have of getting anywhere near the championship in our future and the way the modern game is going especially post covid.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I thank God we've got these owners as I believe they understand how a club like ours has the best chance of success in the modern game. Long gone are the days of the maverick one off manager as getting a really good one isn't easy as we can all testify to. Added to that if he does well he'll get snapped up by a bigger club. Then (if you use the old model) we waste time and money changing out managers, coaching staff and playing staff. Rinse and repeat as we go down the leagues.

Or we could build a system where if the head coach does well and leaves then another steps in to take his place but this is pretty much seemless because of the ethos and style of play the club is known for. This should in theory not stop the momentum of the successful head coach. Everyone quotes Brentford but teams like Swansea and Southampton also have been doing it awhile.

As a club we can't afford to swap out everything and everyone each time we get a new manager with a different style. We've seen IB try to go more attacking which in turn has led to some criticism of him and the owners but this isn't his team or his players. With the method the owners now employ then this should be the last time we completely swap out playing styles etc. I think it's the best chance we have of getting anywhere near the championship in our future and the way the modern game is going especially post covid.

Wise words.thank you CF

[magpie_mania]

I thank God we've got these owners as I believe they understand how a club like ours has the best chance of success in the modern game. Long gone are the days of the maverick one off manager as getting a really good one isn't easy as we can all testify to. Added to that if he does well he'll get snapped up by a bigger club. Then (if you use the old model) we waste time and money changing out managers, coaching staff and playing staff. Rinse and repeat as we go down the leagues.

Or we could build a system where if the head coach does well and leaves then another steps in to take his place but this is pretty much seemless because of the ethos and style of play the club is known for. This should in theory not stop the momentum of the successful head coach. Everyone quotes Brentford but teams like Swansea and Southampton also have been doing it awhile.

As a club we can't afford to swap out everything and everyone each time we get a new manager with a different style. We've seen IB try to go more attacking which in turn has led to some criticism of him and the owners but this isn't his team or his players. With the method the owners now employ then this should be the last time we completely swap out playing styles etc. I think it's the best chance we have of getting anywhere near the championship in our future and the way the modern game is going especially post covid.

Agreed.

What you need to do though is convince the supporters who want instant success. You can be sure that if we aren't top next season, or play-offs at the very worst, they will be bringing out the usual 'Give him 10 games'.

Your approach calls for huge patience and a recognition that it is going to be long-term.

Just one thing though ... you say above 'This should in theory not stop the momentum of the successful head coach.' Theory often goes out of the window where running a football club and managers (or head coaches) are concerned.. Especially at Notts County!**

** This should not be seen as any criticism or doubt regarding IB, just an observation after supporting this club for 50 years!

[jacobncfc]

Agreed.

What you need to do though is convince the supporters who want instant success. You can be sure that if we aren't top next season, or play-offs at the very worst, they will be bringing out the usual 'Give him 10 games'.

Your approach calls for huge patience and a recognition that it is going to be long-term.

Just one thing though ... you say above 'This should in theory not stop the momentum of the successful head coach.' Theory often goes out of the window where running a football club and managers (or head coaches) are concerned.. Especially at Notts County!**

** This should not be seen as any criticism or doubt regarding IB, just an observation after supporting this club for 50 years!

It depends what people want, I guess. We are probably the absolute archetype of the opposite approach to what our owners are trying to put in place.

The way Notts have been run for the last 20 years (and probably longer, that’s just what I can remember) means that most seasons will be bad. Occasionally, maybe once a decade, you stumble on a great manager or team and have an amazing season.

The new approach doesn’t mean that every season will be a promotion, or an amazing one. But if you look at the other clubs doing it, when done properly it seems to mean that the vast majority of seasons are at worst pretty decent.

[Old_pie]

The way Notts have been run for the last 20 years (and probably longer, that’s just what I can remember) means that most seasons will be bad. Occasionally, maybe once a decade, you stumble on a great manager or team and have an amazing season.

But only once a century do we have a manager that can give us more than one amazing season.

[magpie_mania]

It depends what people want, I guess. We are probably the absolute archetype of the opposite approach to what our owners are trying to put in place.

The way Notts have been run for the last 20 years (and probably longer, that’s just what I can remember) means that most seasons will be bad. Occasionally, maybe once a decade, you stumble on a great manager or team and have an amazing season.

The new approach doesn’t mean that every season will be a promotion, or an amazing one. But if you look at the other clubs doing it, when done properly it seems to mean that the vast majority of seasons are at worst pretty decent.

The only time this century was when we stumbled on a fantastic takeover and a cast iron guarantee!

[laddo]

"What you need to do though is convince the supporters who want instant success. You can be sure that if we aren't top next season, or play-offs at the very worst, they will be bringing out the usual 'Give him 10 games' "

Sadly "Some men, you just can't reach"