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Thread: Why the Reedz bothers will fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Thanks Elite for setting Navy straight that you were (unsurprisingly) the person who suggested the poll. The old boy seems to got it into his head that it was me! Although you struggle to read the room (NCM) none of your questions or proposed polls appear popular on here

    If only there was an obvious thread for all this poll talk that you are so keen to arrange..... oh there is in the thread Captain Morgan started all about me

    Looks like you don't even need to use your handbags thread, you can just that one. Perfect

    Hopefully we can let this thread about the owners and whether their plan will succeed or fail get back on topic. We don't need an unnecessary #hijack.

    Back to discussing the Reedz Bros #fingerscrossed
    So Thicko, when we having this Lech Walesa you promised us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I thought a poll was a good idea, obviously laddo disagrees. It seems we are polls apart.

    Maybe he'll change his mind in a couple of weeks, then we can have a May poll.
    Even if he chooses not to instigate one I think we should just go ahead and have a vote as to whether Laddo continues his 'mission' or not.

    Or would that be considered a barge poll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Looks like it only took half an hour before I had to uncross those fingers

    Elite you do realise that there is another thread basically designated to this mission/poll topic? You should do because you were the person who suggested a poll on that very thread

    It does make me wonder why you and thread creator Navy would therefore then feel the need to post about it on a thread about the owners and their chances of success at Notts?!?

    Hmmmm the only reason I can think of is your continued desire to hijack and ruin threads and instigate petty arguments with me#truecolours

    Surely that can't be the case
    My comment was to ancientpie, not you.

    You could easily have ignored it, because americanpie had just got the thread back on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayeayeskipper View Post
    So Thicko, when we having this Lech Walesa you promised us?
    Seems not. I think it's all gone 'Shackleton'. ie: the polls gone south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    Even if he chooses not to instigate one I think we should just go ahead and have a vote as to whether Laddo continues his 'mission' or not.

    Or would that be considered a barge poll?
    I think laddo should suck it up and accept that he's not liked.

    That would be a straw poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    Seems not. I think it's all gone 'Shackleton'. ie: the polls gone south.
    Looks that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I think laddo should suck it up and accept that he's not liked.

    That would be a straw poll.
    I like him.

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    "Quote Back to the thread title.

    Good piece written by Lee Curtis"

    Looks like I'm wasting my time................I'll let you get on with World War 3 !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker9999 View Post
    I have brought this post up again so that all those who rubbished my comments can apologise. (I wish!)

    I never replied to any of it as I was sure all I had to do was wait but did not expect things to happen this quickly.

    All the comments about short term –v- long term make me smile as the truth is whilst the owners may think about long term in terms of better training facilities, club structure, getting promotion etc, in truth any manager has only about 10 games at any point to secure his job. 6-8 losses in that period almost inevitably mean he will be on his bike.

    The owners stuck with Ardley for longer but if it was really a long term plan why sack him. As a manager he was hardly a failure in terms of his overall record but the fact he failed to fulfil the clubs ambitions is quite another matter. I still think his sacking shows that our owners lack clarity of purpose and understanding of football management. They held onto Ardley for too long to achieve their priority, short term goals.

    My view is we will start next season with our current manager, (but only a 60-40 chance) and the current owners, but will finish it with neither of them.
    To be honest Biker, it was the title of your thread that annoyed me more than the content of it, because I've never knowingly objected to someone expressing an opinion. We can all speculate about how well or badly the Reedtz brothers' project will turn out in the long run, and it's easy to push a negative view when the team is struggling and all the prophets of doom are in full cry, not least on social media. Time may prove you right, or it may prove you wrong.

    I just question what you were seeking to achieve with the headline "Why the Reedtz brothers will fail", which sounds sneering and dismissive of owners who - whatever you think of their strategy - have without doubt rescued the club from possible bankruptcy or ownership by people like Alex May.

    Perhaps you didn't intend it, but you chose an aggressive, extremely negative headline which almost infers you want them to fail, and that you oppose their ownership, which I doubt would be the sentiment of many Notts County fans, especially when you look at the alternatives (or lack of alternatives) out there. We are not in a position where we can be too choosy about our ownership, or too sniffy about owners who want to take a new approach which we may like or dislike.

    Perhaps if you had chosen a different title, maybe along the lines of "Will the owners' strategy work?", then your post would have been read in the more analytical tone it was perhaps intended, but to my eyes at least, you seemed to be revelling in predicting the failure of people who, in my opinion, have treated the club and the fans with respect and are doing their best to implement a strategy that they hope will eventually deliver a brighter, more sustainable future.

    And why shouldn't we give the owners time and support, even at this difficult juncture? It's not as though the alternative, more traditional "throw money at it, employ sh*t scouts, set 5-year plans and keep sacking managers" approach has been a raging success over the previous twenty years. The new approach may or may not work, given time, but surely we should live in hope, because otherwise there don't seem to be a lot of places left to go.
    Last edited by jackal2; 18-04-2021 at 03:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    My comment was to ancientpie, not you.

    You could easily have ignored it, because americanpie had just got the thread back on topic.
    If only you could spot who took it off topic? It shouldn't be too difficult even for someone so biased and blinkered. The posts are in chronological order which should give you all the help you need.

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