Sutton Utd

[Killerkline]

I don't think he was an idol to anyone.

But some of the comments are simply ridiculous. He is accused on here of having a terrible defence, when the truth is that we didn't. Instead, the point is argued that it was at the expense of goals. No-one is saying it wasn't, that comment was in reply to the awful defence one.

Now look at your post. 'failed to do the job he was kept on to do .... twice'. Not true. He failed (just) once, and whether he would have failed a second time, we will never know. Cue ......'no chance we were going up'. Even if you say that, it doesn't change that your comment is not true.

On to signings ..... posted on here that his loan signings (apart from. Ellis) were awful, yet Calvin Miller is lauded as a superstar! It was said that his permanent signings are useless ..... The very same ones that received standing ovations last week.

Of course, it is absolutely true that he couldn't get them playing, but that is a completely different argument.

Posting things that are opinion as fact won't get people's respect either!

Cracking post

[Jampie]

A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Anybody still making excuses for his time at Notts is simply trying to rationalise their own failure to spot the bleeding obvious later than just about everybody else.

Digging yourself further into that hole is not going to encourage people to respect your opinion.

Sad rhetoric doesn't make your ill informed opinions facts.

[countygump]

Sad rhetoric doesn't make your ill informed opinions facts.

Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Personally, I would call those stone cold 'facts'.

[upthemaggies]

Losers back losers.

[Elite_Pie]

You do know you are allowed to ask others to move petty arguments to your handbags thread? There have been plenty of examples recently where I have not been involved and you have once again you have said nothing. You could say you've gone as quiet as a mouse..... again. Hmmm I wonder why lol

Why do you keep calling it my handbags thread? It's nothing to do with me. It's been explained to you many times that it's the ex-moderators thread. He set it up and asked all posters to use it for petty arguments so threads wouldn't be ruined for others. You openly stuck two fingers up to him and flatly refused to use it. That's why threads like this one has been ruined - because you refused to co-operate with his wishes. You insist on continuing your petty arguments on football threads.

Choo Choo on that.

Whilst I've got you just want to check you don't like the use of nicknames do you? You still find their use disrespectful?

I'm not keen on silly nicknames, but I can't stop anyone using them if they want to. What I find much worse is rank hypocrisy, where a poster says one thing and then proceeds to do the exact opposite of what he preaches.

Ring any bells?

[laddo]

So you think this thread is ruined because I don't use, post on or view the now deceased Handbags thread? You may want to read back through the start of this thread to see the real reason. It really isn't difficult to spot, at least most of the debates are football well Ardley (shock, horror) related#usualsuspects followed by your usual #fanclub contribution aimed in my direction as is your norm.


That's interesting so you aren't keen, but can't stop anyone using them. You have then spent months and months and months asking me to stop using silly nicknames because they were disrespectful. Lost count of the number of times you mentioned it. Yet never asked anyone else using nicknames or even worse plain insults to stop. Not once! Funny that lol. If you can't stop anyone using them then why do it repeatedly in the past?

That'll be a prime example of that rank hypocrisy you are referring too.

"Those who live in glass houses...."

[laddo]

[QUOTE=upthemaggies;39789747]Losers back losers.[/Q

That's why 'DavyFacts' is without doubt my favourite nickname because it's not childish or insulting it's just accurate.

[laddo]

Losers back losers.

That's not great news if you are a Notts fan

[magpie_mania]

Losers back losers.

I am sure you can do better than that!

[Jampie]

Is this obsession with Ardley (and you can't call it anything else since he gets brought up in Every. Single. Thread.) all about having someone you can blame on the relegation? One name to pin it all on?

We got relegated because we sucked. Notts County were relegated because we played bad football. All three managers and every player we had on the team that season produced poor results. Hardy's softy was a better performer.

Nolan, who I thought was a very promising manager produced poor results.

Kewell, who I think is a very promising manager produced poor results.

Ardley who at the time was a very experienced manager who routinely got better results out of what were supposed to be worse teams... produced poor results.

There was a lot wrong at the club. There's a lot more to it than ITS ALL ARDLEYS FAULT WAAAAHHHH!!!!!11

Letting that season cloud your judgement about the two seasons since is illogical. Understandable perhaps, but it has no basis in logic, no stats to back it up. We were solidly in the playoff spots for the second year running when he was sacked. I'm delighted IB's got the team on a run of good form, and sincerely hope he is a much better manager than Ardley.

But calling Ardley a bad manager... the statistics just don't back it up. You don't like him? I heard you the five-thousandth time. You don't like his tactics? I've heard that too. A lot. He's gone. Feel free to stop bringing him up any time now...