Match Thread vs. Boreham Wood 23.11.21 [NL]

[Iremongersrighthand]

3 major incidents that effected Notts and put us on a downward spiral in recent years:
1) Meindert Dijkstra's OG against Derby. 2) Sam Allardyce walking out when we were top of league 1. 3) Munto to being a con

[nw6pie]

Stats . . .

https://www.nottscountystats.com/pos...boreham-wood-a

Thanks for those - pretty grim reading, but seemingly backed up by the “highlights”.

One thing I note is how well Tahvon Campbell is doing at Woking - 13 goals so far this season, none of them penalties. The fox in the box we need?

One point I’d make about finances is that to win big, you sometimes have to put more money down (if you have it, of course). Cheaterfield may have spent a reported £250k on Tshimanga, but I’m sure he’s worth double that now to a wealthy League 1 side. As long as he stays fit, they have a very saleable asset.

[nw6pie]

3 major incidents that effected Notts and put us on a downward spiral in recent years:
1) Meindert Dijkstra's OG against Derby. 2) Sam Allardyce walking out when we were top of league 1. 3) Munto to being a con

Dijstra OG was a nightmare, but I don’t think there’s any way we would have gone up that season if we’d made the playoffs,

My three “Sliding Doors” moments would be…

1. Losing Howard Wilkinson and replacing him with Fat Larry in 1983. Or was losing Raddy and signing McDonagh the biggest mistake?

2. Buying Tony Agana and not Brian Deane in 1991

3. Losing to Macclesfield on Boxing Day, 2018

And if I had to cite a non-Notts event, it would be the introduction of the Bosman ruling - which seemingly doomed us to several decades of journeymen trading places every few seasons.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Well that just depends on the length of the grass eh Elite?

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How soon we forget ....( and that's what Boris relies on..!)

[upthemaggies]

Dijstra OG was a nightmare, but I don’t think there’s any way we would have gone up that season if we’d made the playoffs,

My three “Sliding Doors” moments would be…

1. Losing Howard Wilkinson and replacing him with Fat Larry in 1983. Or was losing Raddy and signing McDonagh the biggest mistake?

2. Buying Tony Agana and not Brian Deane in 1991

3. Losing to Macclesfield on Boxing Day, 2018

And if I had to cite a non-Notts event, it would be the introduction of the Bosman ruling - which seemingly doomed us to several decades of journeymen trading places every few seasons.

We now know no.1 only happened because Dunnett wouldn't give Wilko a few hundred extra pounds on his annual salary. We would have had a much better season with Wilko than Lloyd, no doubt about it. Would have required 9 more points to stay up but seeing what he went on to do with Sheff Wed and Leeds, he probably would have managed it.

As for staying up in 1991/92, As much as I love the man, the fact is that Warnock hasn't kept any other club up in the top flight, so I'd say persuading him to stay and not go to Chelsea was the biggest mistake in hindsight (assuming Pavis did play a part in Warnock's decision). There wouldn't have been a great deal of time for a new manager to come in and get us ship shape but if we'd got David Pleat - who Pavis was apparently quite keen on as Warnocks replacement in 1993 - then his experience and our impetus at that time might have got us over the line - we only needed 5 points more than we got to become PL founder members.

I think Sammy McIlroy made it to a 2nd interview in 1995 but Murphy got the job instead.

As a side note, Allardyce was interviewed for the job when Warnock got it. Obviously the right choice was made at the time but that does tell us that Big Sam could have come in earlier than he did, being on Pavis' radar and Sam being keen on the job.

[laddo]

Dijstra OG was a nightmare, but I don’t think there’s any way we would have gone up that season if we’d made the playoffs,

My three “Sliding Doors” moments would be…

1. Losing Howard Wilkinson and replacing him with Fat Larry in 1983. Or was losing Raddy and signing McDonagh the biggest mistake?

2. Buying Tony Agana and not Brian Deane in 1991

3. Losing to Macclesfield on Boxing Day, 2018

And if I had to cite a non-Notts event, it would be the introduction of the Bosman ruling - which seemingly doomed us to several decades of journeymen trading places every few seasons.

As for 2. I've heard this for decades now. Was Brian Deane actually available? This has been confirmed we could have signed him? Sheff United said take your pick for £680k-£750K and we chose Agana?

I hope not.

[uysapie]

Dijstra OG was a nightmare, but I don’t think there’s any way we would have gone up that season if we’d made the playoffs,

My three “Sliding Doors” moments would be…

1. Losing Howard Wilkinson and replacing him with Fat Larry in 1983. Or was losing Raddy and signing McDonagh the biggest mistake?

2. Buying Tony Agana and not Brian Deane in 1991

3. Losing to Macclesfield on Boxing Day, 2018

And if I had to cite a non-Notts event, it would be the introduction of the Bosman ruling - which seemingly doomed us to several decades of journeymen trading places every few seasons.

I would add selling our 2 best players to build the new stands.

[Elite_Pie]

Thats pretty much the same for me, and to make matters worse they have shut lawtons bar....

Hopefully Lawton's Bar is being refurbished rather than shut. I always drifted down there at half time, not to drink because I was driving but to catch up with the halftime scores on Skysports. I remember seeing Jimmy Sirrel in there a few times a while back, and when he ordered a coffee someone would usually say "do you want a whisky in that Jim?". His reply was always "Aye, go on then"!

[durhampie]

Hopefully Lawton's Bar is being refurbished rather than shut. I always drifted down there at half time, not to drink because I was driving but to catch up with the halftime scores on Skysports. I remember seeing Jimmy Sirrel in there a few times a while back, and when he ordered a coffee someone would usually say "do you want a whisky in that Jim?". His reply was always "Aye, go on then"!

He used to come in after the reserve game with his wife and have a drink and chat with us. He was a true gent..

[Davy500]

Yep, hard to say we genuinely belong up there but it's nice to think we could one day. Bournemouth had their day in the sun and Brentford are having theirs. Neither of those would have been predictable 20-odd years ago.

Well Bournemouth had a billionaire owner, i am not sure about Brentford, but i doubt the chairman was short of a penny.

The fact is folks the game is all about money, the reason Notts have fell down the leagues over the last 20 years is, the owners since pavis have not had 2 shillings to rub together, we have nearly gone out of business on numerous occasions

Example take our neighbours forest have had losses over 25 million in the last 5 years, none of our owners could get even close to pocketing that loss