O/T booster jabs.

[Lolmorgan]

Is that fact or opinion?

Both

[ragingpup]

They are trying to get approval for 5-11 year olds to have the jab next.

Is this to protect them or to reduce risk of spreading it, as even with the jabs you can still spread it and can also catch it.

Who decides which illnesses and diseases get prioritised. For years we've been told 1 in 3 people will get cancer, what are the numbers for Covid and the consequences.

Please could you or anyone answer this question.

If the evidence is showing, as it is, that having the vaccinations and boosters help to reduce the spread of covid (to what extent is still subject to reserarch on the different strains), and therefore help to reduce the risk of the NHS being overwhelmed, and therefore stifling even the treatment of other high risk illnesses, why wouldn't a person who is able to take the vaccination do so?

And the follow up to that is that if a person is refusing the vaccine, why are they so insistent that they should have the freedom to go out and, as non caccinated people, be more prone to contracting and spreading the virus than vaccinated people, therefore risking other's lives by adding to the risk of the NHS being overwhelmed?

I understand the point and danger that some low risk treatments are being set back for vaccination roll out, and that there will be an inherent risk in that which you have to balance out against the risk on the NHS being overwhelmed.

[fc_miller]

Both

are you sure you're not an MP?

[fc_miller]

Please could you or anyone answer this question.

If the evidence is showing, as it is, that having the vaccinations and boosters help to reduce the spread of covid (to what extent is still subject to reserarch on the different strains), and therefore help to reduce the risk of the NHS being overwhelmed, and therefore stifling even the treatment of other high risk illnesses, why wouldn't a person who is able to take the vaccination do so?

And the follow up to that is that if a person is refusing the vaccine, why are they so insistent that they should have the freedom to go out and, as non caccinated people, be more prone to contracting and spreading the virus than vaccinated people, therefore risking other's lives by adding to the risk of the NHS being overwhelmed?

I understand the point and danger that some low risk treatments are being set back for vaccination roll out, and that there will be an inherent risk in that which you have to balance out against the risk on the NHS being overwhelmed.

There is evidence to show that face coverings and testing (i.e. isolation when possitive) also help reduce the spread, yet people moan that they will have to wear a face covering. How many did you see wearing them on the concourse at home to Burton?
Carlise are reducing their capacity to 9,999 and some have ask Rotherham to do the same. Why so people don't have to prove they don't have covid and spread it around.

[MillerBill]

While ever he continues to listen to these useless Sage advisors who have a shocking record on predictions, Boris will get deeper in the black hole.All they can come out with are scaremongering tactics.In Germany they have taken 80 million test cases while we have taken a massive 375 million.The mainstream media tell us we have more positive cases than other countries,well obviously when we are ridiculously taking that many.Where is the opposition to all this nonsense?

[ragingpup]

There is evidence to show that face coverings and testing (i.e. isolation when possitive) also help reduce the spread, yet people moan that they will have to wear a face covering. How many did you see wearing them on the concourse at home to Burton?
Carlise are reducing their capacity to 9,999 and some have ask Rotherham to do the same. Why so people don't have to prove they don't have covid and spread it around.

Not sure I follow fc. You seem to be accepting that vaccinations (and masks) help reduce the spread of covid but then saying that as others aren't wearing them, why should anyone need to prove it? Am I misunderstanding your point?

[flourbasher]

Similarly why was travel in and out of SA to the UK not banned months ago except for all but essential travel as that country has had significant issues for a long time.
Did the govt learn nothing after the first wave when the borders were open

Why did they announce the booster programme measures before they had all the resources in place . Wrong way round Bosser. I'm sure one of his young children could have worked that one out

[ragingpup]

While ever he continues to listen to these useless Sage advisors who have a shocking record on predictions, Boris will get deeper in the black hole.All they can come out with are scaremongering tactics.In Germany they have taken 80 million test cases while we have taken a massive 375 million.The mainstream media tell us we have more positive cases than other countries,well obviously when we are ridiculously taking that many.Where is the opposition to all this nonsense?

All that may be so Bill but the bottom line is Do vaccinations help spread of the virus and then following that, shouldn't more people be taking the vaccinations to help slow the spread and protect the NHS from being flooded and therefore stifle those in need of serious care?

I take the point that many are just plain ignorant and can't be bothered to engage with the protections, but I'm even more concerned with what appear to be rational people actually producing a logical argument for why they shouldn't.

[ragingpup]

Similarly why was travel in and out of SA to the UK not banned months ago except for all but essential travel as that country has had significant issues for a long time.
Did the govt learn nothing after the first wave when the borders were open

Why did they announce the booster programme measures before they had all the resources in place . Wrong way round Bosser. I'm sure one of his young children could have worked that one out

I think Kerr answered that one quite succinctly earlier in the thread.

[MillerBill]

All that may be so Bill but the bottom line is Do vaccinations help spread of the virus and then following that, shouldn't more people be taking the vaccinations to help slow the spread and protect the NHS from being flooded and therefore stifle those in need of serious care?

I take the point that many are just plain ignorant and can't be bothered to engage with the protections, but I'm even more concerned with what appear to be rational people actually producing a logical argument for why they shouldn't.

I agree we have a vaccine that greatly reduces the risks and with a booster even more so.I cannot understand why people would refuse to take this unless medical conditions determine otherwise.Let's all get it done and return back to normality.