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Thread: McPake's away.....

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Let the hose go, you'll feel better for I promise

    But then of course the hose was indicative of the mediocrity surrounding the club, no standards.
    The hose is on the back burner, not completely let it go......if it appears again I'll probably make a song and dance about it.

    I don't understand how folk accept our tip of a ground just as I don't understand how mediocrity is deemed as success.

    Still won't be long till season tic money is due and Linda will communicate for a few days.

    On a slight side issue I was watching him dodging the dubs in the Dingwall car park, I wouldn't say he was annoyed at getting his feet covered in gutters but slightly put out.....I was gonna say that that's what the back of the Bobby Cox is like but I didn't have any holy water on me to protect myself if he spun round.😁

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    Mediocrity is better than failure IMO. I thought Andrak had a good recent post on the other forum about expectations. My view is that I don't think Nelms delegates any responsibility. I don't know why. I can't think of a single responsibility that has been given to a fellow director of our club. I don't think modern football clubs are run as a one man band and maybe all Nelms needs to do is trust a fellow director to get on with a specific job.
    He must be getting good advice from Gordon Strachan but maybe that isn't enough. We seem to have the youth coaching side going well. Perhaps that us an area of the club that Nelms has kept away from because he trusts Gordon Strachan to keep things moving forward. Is there an area of activity that John Nelms could apply the same principles to. Recruitment seems to be a strange mixture of mediocre, awful and inspirational. Adam coming to our club, amazing, Panter coming to our club, not so. Scouting seems to be a weak area but McPake seems to be able to get deals across the line.
    The ground is looking very unloved. I thought that the chat was that there was going to be a change in personnel. Wonder what's happened and if the changes might be more wide ranging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Mediocrity is better than failure IMO. I thought Andrak had a good recent post on the other forum about expectations. My view is that I don't think Nelms delegates any responsibility. I don't know why. I can't think of a single responsibility that has been given to a fellow director of our club. I don't think modern football clubs are run as a one man band and maybe all Nelms needs to do is trust a fellow director to get on with a specific job.
    He must be getting good advice from Gordon Strachan but maybe that isn't enough. We seem to have the youth coaching side going well. Perhaps that us an area of the club that Nelms has kept away from because he trusts Gordon Strachan to keep things moving forward. Is there an area of activity that John Nelms could apply the same principles to. Recruitment seems to be a strange mixture of mediocre, awful and inspirational. Adam coming to our club, amazing, Panter coming to our club, not so. Scouting seems to be a weak area but McPake seems to be able to get deals across the line.
    The ground is looking very unloved. I thought that the chat was that there was going to be a change in personnel. Wonder what's happened and if the changes might be more wide ranging?
    Which fellow director of our football club do you suggest that Nelms delegates any responsibility to.
    As far as the board of directors are connected each of them has their own day job.
    We have a commercial manager at Dens Park who in my opinion should be doing a lot more encouraging the sponsorship of both the home strip and away strip of the first team players, sponsorship of the managerial team and the youth players.
    Nobody from the Dundee Football Club Commercial Department at the end of each season gets in touch with existing shirt sponsors to find out if they are planning to sponsor a first team player (s) for the next season.

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    If you look at the directors only Bob Hynd seems to have a specific skill that could address the current stadium issues. Don't know the others but they seem more skilled 8n corporate stuff rather than the nitty gritty of football. Seems to me that we are light on that front. Recruitment of players seems an area where other clubs have more resource.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    If you look at the directors only Bob Hynd seems to have a specific skill that could address the current stadium issues. Don't know the others but they seem more skilled 8n corporate stuff rather than the nitty gritty of football. Seems to me that we are light on that front. Recruitment of players seems an area where other clubs have more resource.
    Bob Hynd was originally the Dee4life Trust secondary representative on the Dundee FC board of directors.
    I seem to remember reading in the minutes of the Dee4life Trust board of directors meetings (sadly now no longer available to read) that when FPS took over they asked for the Dee4life Trust secondary representative to be either an architect or an accountant.

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