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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    What are these two columns of data showing gm? One column on the left shows falling figures, the one on the right are increasing. What are they showing?
    The right hand Columb is the total case numbers, the day by day numbers show a huge decrease in line with what we were told (but completely ignored) by South Africa that it was a short term mild variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm_gm View Post
    The right hand Columb is the total case numbers, the day by day numbers show a huge decrease in line with what we were told (but completely ignored) by South Africa that it was a short term mild variant.

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    I agree that the evidence from South African was that it was a miler varient but as a relatively unknown quantity we had no way of knowing what the actual impact of the outbreak would be on the NHS. We exchanged views about hospitalisations in mid December when you were already suggesting that all would be fine and I showed you the emerging increase in hospitalisations. Look what has happened to the numbers of people in hospitals since:

    hospitalCases
    19735
    19858
    19070
    18633
    18710
    18540
    18075
    17354
    16362
    15172
    14538
    14212
    13188
    12002
    10956
    9799
    8780
    8367
    8560
    8341
    8306
    8087
    7877
    7635
    7480

    It increased nearly 3 times in that 2-3 week period stretching the NHS hugely in London and that stretch is now hitting the North in various places.

    I think the whole reason for the restrictions that we have been under (which are not a huge burden to be honest) have helped to flatten the impact of the omecron wave. It was quite clear, at least to most, that the virus itself isn't anything like the threat to life and long term illness that Delta represented but without some restrictions, the pressure on the NHS and the wider economy from mass absences/isolations would be inevitable and not sure why you (and Fire) seem to keep advocating for it.

    But overall, the omecron outbreak, with what looks to be a bonus in that exposure to it appears to prevent delta infection, is coming down in some areas in terms of infections and hospitalisations/ventilations looks to be levelling and falling. It is indeed following a path that many were predicting (including myself I would add) on the back of the South African data, but I think the government have been wise in asking for modest restrictions whilst the wave did it's worst, and helped to flatten the curve.

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