Quote Originally Posted by phild View Post
It appears you are incorrect Calgary with your figures relating to the ONS of a reported figure you quote as 170,000. Bordering stated 17,000 which is more accurate. The scandal in all this is the exaggerated figures of deaths within 28 days of death and in some cases 60 days even when deaths are not related to Covid. Many had preexisting conditions when entering hospital and usually many caught SARS-COV2 there.

Anyhoo the ONS have given the figures of 2020/21 as 17,300 for those without any pre existing conditions - the tables are all in the link

https://tinyurl.com/2u2r43jw
This nonsense is exactly what I am talking about - trying to lessen the impact of covid by cherry picking statistics. Like most respiratory tract diseases, Covid affects people with pre-existing conditions more harshly than those who don't. What of it? <ost people over 50 have pre existing conditions of one sort or another. I am 57, overweight, and have moderately high blood pressure but otherwise healthy. Are you saying if I got covid and died today it was because I was 57 and overweight or because I had covid? Yes, high blood pressure will eventually kill me but it would definitely be covid that killed me now. So the use of that 17000 death statistic is, to say the least, deceptive and probably done to make a political point rather than addressing the real health care issue. Its a bit like saying if you take all those who lived in close proximity to rats out of the statistics, the black death was actually quite benign - true but hardly informative.