O/T:- Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[jackal2]

C’mon Jackal you must even know yourself that’s desperate stuff.

BFP you’re pretty dismissive of any opinion that (even gently) contradicts your own view of the world, but I’ll give you your due, you’re as rigidly true to your beliefs as any poster on this board, which is exactly the kind of conviction I’m saying we’re missing from our politicians, so I can’t knock you for that!

Trying the old ‘they’re all the same’ line, because the current Labour leader happened to be from a different wing of the party than the previous one? Brown hated Blair, but he was still his chancellor for 10 years and no one, not even a Tory said Brown lacked integrity when he took over.

Brown grew to hate Blair on a personal level, but politically they were both pretty consistent around the ‘New Labour’ project for as long as it was popular with the public. Brown’s socialist instincts were stronger than Blair’s and I think that tension, combined with the personal acrimony, became more evident during the last couple of years of Blair’s premiership, but there’s no way I would liken their political differences to the ideological chasm that exists between Corbyn and Starmer’s visions for the Labour Party.

Starmer is in no way comparable to a man whose entire career has been built on lies and self interest.

As I’ve said in my reply to Driller, Starmer may well be more adept at hiding or downplaying the lies and self-interest in his career than Boris, who has reached a level of cynicism where he barely makes a credible attempt to conceal it, but that doesn’t mean Starmer has any right to claim for himself the principles of ‘selflessness’ and ‘integrity’. I doubt if any of the top table politicians can.