Match Thread vs. Bromley FC 29.01.22 [NL]

[Killerkline]

I know. Point is if we got him because he was available, why not 6 months earlier?

Combination of events/reasons. Fair to Ardley, team performance, COVID situation and as IP referred to, other clubs.

[Killerkline]

There have been plenty of examples of things not working and IB reacting and changing them quicker than any manager I can remember in games. Now he needs to solve the 3 season problem of away matches to take us to the next level. There is no reason he can't, it's not an easy problem to solve no matter what the armchair fans think.

Agree

[irishpete]

I know. Point is if we got him because he was available, why not 6 months earlier?

Maybe the Scandanavian season didn't finish in time to start the season here, therefore pre season & signings that he would want compared to Ardleys would be different & if things done differently to how NA wanted, he may have known his days were numbered & walked & left us in a mess at the start of the season.
IB may have not made his mind up in that Summer as to whether he was coming home or staying

[durhampie]

Great summary.

There have been plenty of examples of things not working and IB reacting and changing them quicker than any manager I can remember in games. Now he needs to solve the 3 season problem of away matches to take us to the next level. There is no reason he can't, it's not an easy problem to solve no matter what the armchair fans think.

On that assumption it would appear that i AM fully qualified to give an expert opinion of what's currently wrong, on the basis of going to every game.. As you say, like some armchair supporters...

[durhampie]

So, the point I was making is correct… he can adapt. At no point did I suggest it was a ‘Burchnall thing’.

I haven’t got the stats, but I don’t believe we have changed it more often than not. If Burchnall does change it and we win, what’s the issue?

Why’s the training that we do proven to be a ‘load of crap’? Do you think we only train for one formation?

If the opposition take an approach to combat our formation, we may need to change.

Burchnall often says during his interviews that they focus and prepare for the next game only.. Recent performances would suggest that they are not doing the right preparation....

[laddo]

On that assumption it would appear that i AM fully qualified to give an expert opinion of what's currently wrong, on the basis of going to every game.. As you say, like some armchair supporters...

You certainly have plenty of experience of offering opinion and advice on what's wrong#balancenotbias

Although your opinions could be seen as questionable seeing as you've only just learnt to offer your comment, opinion and occasional praise after we win, and that's after going to "every game" for assume years and years lol#playingcatchup

[Killerkline]

Burchnall often says during his interviews that they focus and prepare for the next game only.. Recent performances would suggest that they are not doing the right preparation....

Pretty much the norm in football… one game at a time. I really don’t get you point? Yes, recent results may suggest that or the players haven’t executed what’s been asked of them. The number of good performances suggest they have got the preparation right more often than not.

[the_anticlough]

Playing Roberts in a wing-back position a couple of games ago was a weird tactic, reverting him back to his usual spot at half-time did the trick but it was an odd move to start with.

It was.
Other posters have reminded us about IB's thinking and that's all fine and well, rather that than a full-back like Chicksen.

But it does prove that IB picks the system first and then finds players to fit into it (deductive approach) rather than assesses the players/squad available to him and after that the best system for those players (inductive approach).
From what I saw from the highlights, Cal looked like a fish out of water in that position and was partly at fault for their opening goal. The whole experience must have stung him into life and he got the hat-trick. Maybe we can put him in goal for the 1st half against Grimsby and he'll get 6 goals in the 2nd on Saturday

I know I sound like a broken record on this, but apart from the example of Challinor's Hartlepool, I've rarely seen 'wing-back' formations played correctly and be successful. When you commit to it, the type and quality of the Wing-Backs is massively important to the success of the team. The fact that we've tried options like DKE, Chicksen, Nemane and Roberts there to little effect suggests to me that possibly we've put the (wrong) system first and then been scratching around for players to fit there second. When you're hunting for just 2 promotion spots, any team structure problem like this will scupper your chances.

[durhampie]

You certainly have plenty of experience of offering opinion and advice on what's wrong#balancenotbias

Although your opinions could be seen as questionable seeing as you've only just learnt to offer your comment, opinion and occasional praise after we win, and that's after going to "every game" for assume years and years lol#playingcatchup

To give a balanced opinion on games, one should at least be in attendance. To criticise opinions of those who regularly
go to games whilst sat at home listening to a biased radio commentary, well i would suggest that is more questionable than actually being there....

[Killerkline]

It was.
Other posters have reminded us about IB's thinking and that's all fine and well, rather that than a full-back like Chicksen.

But it does prove that IB picks the system first and then finds players to fit into it (deductive approach) rather than assesses the players/squad available to him and after that the best system for those players (inductive approach).
From what I saw from the highlights, Cal looked like a fish out of water in that position and was partly at fault for their opening goal. The whole experience must have stung him into life and he got the hat-trick. Maybe we can put him in goal for the 1st half against Grimsby and he'll get 6 goals in the 2nd on Saturday

I know I sound like a broken record on this, but apart from the example of Challinor's Hartlepool, I've rarely seen 'wing-back' formations played correctly and be successful. When you commit to it, the type and quality of the Wing-Backs is massively important to the success of the team. The fact that we've tried options like DKE, Chicksen, Nemane and Roberts there to little effect suggests to me that possibly we've put the (wrong) system first and then been scratching around for players to fit there second. When you're hunting for just 2 promotion spots, any team structure problem like this will scupper your chances.

There’s no two ways about it, the Roberts/wing back selection was a strange one. He was partially at fault for their goal, didn’t stop the cross. But, I understand Burchnall’s reasoning. In terms of not Chicksen, Cameron was unavailable. So Chicksen was required at LCB.

I actually think we’ve played the wing back system well on quite a few occasions. I’m not saying it’s the way forward for the remainder of the season. But, it’s certainly not a write off.

Saturday, we and Roberts were decent first. 2nd half, change of system/Roberts out wide and possibly the poorest 45 mins I’ve seen us play this season.