Match Thread vs. Bromley FC 29.01.22 [NL]

[nw6pie]

Nor would I, but the laddo thing was always about him claiming to have attended games rather than him actually attending games. I realise it's now been done to death, and the evidence is out there if anyone actually cares.

Bromley has gone, so Grimsby is now more important. I would have been much more confident if we had played them a month ago, but they seem to be getting their season back on track after a massive slump. They will bring plenty of fans so it should be a good atmosphere, but I'm a bit concerned that they are looking more of the form team than we are.

Grimsby have sold their full allocation of 2,500 tickets, apparently, so it should be a cracking atmosphere.

[magpie_mania]

So if we win it's luck, if we lose its because we aren't good enough.?
Wrexham, stockport, Grimsby were all nicely placed when we beat them, we should have beat Halifax, we destroyed Solihull ...off the top of my head only Bromley beat our first 11 and even then a draw might have been a fair result...not bad for a hopeless side and manager...

It used to be under Ardley, so why not under Burchnall? At least that is consistent.

[Davy500]

Wrong before? Please explain.

Ardley was given an opportunity. He didn’t take that opportunity and Burchnall was available. The owners believe Burchnall fits their long term vision for the club and can deliver short term objectives. Whether you agree with their view or not, surely you understand the chain of events?

Effective football. Your view is based on league standing. I have no issues with this approach, but it would be good if you could show league standings after 23 games from last season in comparison to this season, to support your view. I think it’s also fair to say that you can’t say the additional time at the end of last season for Burchnall didn’t help. Judgement can’t be passed until the end of the season?

Based on what I’m seeing in games, Burchnall’s football is more effective. Over the course of this season we’ve created far more goal scoring opportunities than last season. There are certainly occasions when I would like us to pull the trigger. But, I understand Burchnall’s view. In that we are more likely to score shooting from inside the box than outside.

Your comment ‘the picture will not change over the next 10/20games’ is contradictory to your next comment. Surely if Notts are not consistent, then neither will be their League position? However, come the end of the season, our final league position will be a reflection of our form over the course of the season. Not a snap shot.

‘Lucky in the playoffs’. Undoubtedly luck plays a part in the playoffs, but luck is not the single ingredient for a successful playoff campaign. If Notts were to go on and secure promotion via the playoffs, they will have done so competing against Wrexham or Stockport, maybe both. To be successful will take more than luck.

Finally, your view hasn’t been correct. You can’t pass that judgement with any clarity until our season is over. Last time I looked, there was just under half the season to go.

Ultimately, all Notts supporters want promotion. Having said that, I’m sure some supporters would prefer Notts fail in order to prove their theories correct. Overall, I’m enjoying the football on offer this season and the overall direction the club is moving.

You were wrong in saying Burcnall was a good appointment, i think it was a poor to average appointment i said so, even though criticised for it at the time, well nearly a year later what has he done, absosulutely nothing to sort out the problems that keep us in a lower play off place
I have been correct, i have enough evidence from Burchnall last season, and so far this season, that if there was another 100 games, we never be real title contenders

As for Ardley, you say the owners thought he deserved a second chance, they did not give him that chance, they replaced him because Burchnall became available, you just can not make it up

If it means that much to you lets wait till the end of the season, i wonder what excuses you will come out with

As for the owners, i am not happy with the overall direction of the club, they seem happy with being in this league for the long term, with reaching lower play offs, and the law of averages, in that we will eventually go up, if we are in them every year, and also the fact that notts are not there main priority, as they have interests elsewhere

Of course hope springs eternal, it is possible, but not likely Burchanll will sort it out, and rise to the top , but until he proves it i will not believe it

[Davy500]

I believe Davey is...certainly his posts point in that direction even if he's not actually said it out loud!!

I said average, but so far you have got to ask yourself, how has Burchnall sorted out any of Notts long term problems, that are poor away, poor against bottom half teams, and playing agianst a high press

At the moment Burchnall certainly deserves the whole season to see if he can turn this around, but if he fails to promote us then what ?

[queenslandpie]

I said average, but so far you have got to ask yourself, how has Burchnall sorted out any of Notts long term problems, that are poor away, poor against bottom half teams, and playing agianst a high press

At the moment Burchnall certainly deserves the whole season to see if he can turn this around, but if he fails to promote us then what ?

Well "then what" is a good question Davy. You appear quite keen to suggest there is no improvement or that there are problems. However I do not see you coming to the fore with any suggestions for solutions. This season there are 3 teams in this division that are better financed than any league 1 or league 2 team and that is now starting to show with 2 of them up the top and other one making moves towards it. Surely you would expect at least a couple of them in the top 3 at the end of the season. Then there are 3 teams in the mix over achieving you would say in Halifax, Bromley and Boreham Wood, but I bet 1 or 2 of them make the play offs. It is clear we need to mix it up a bit away from home. What's the potential solution Davy?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

A different ball game with IB we create chances and play attacking football (@home).I'm surprised youve not been calling for the ex Messiah to be reinstated even after we tore them a new arsehole when they were down the lane!?

[Jampie]

You were wrong in saying Burcnall was a good appointment, i think it was a poor to average appointment

Who should they have appointed?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I said average, but so far you have got to ask yourself, how has Burchnall sorted out any of Notts long term problems, that are poor away, poor against bottom half teams, and playing agianst a high press

At the moment Burchnall certainly deserves the whole season to see if he can turn this around, but if he fails to promote us then what ?

I have said this elsewhere IB's season was one of rebuilding seeing as we lost some key players at the end of his first season with us.Next season is the season where his assembled squad should come together. This season was a case of re assembling a squad and it is now a small case of fine tuning what went wrong (if it does)this season and taking it to the ultimate level next season if we don't get promotion this time around.
As poor as we are we are still in with a shout for top 4 if we win our games in hand , and top spot if we beat those in and around us.
not bad for a disastrous season.
I do agree that we need to find a way of dealing with the smaller clubs with their physical hoof ball approach, but I believe IB has the abilities to counter this, but like any other manager if he doesn't find answers to the problems he will be out of a job sooner or later.
In hope and expectation I think he's to good not to sort it once and for all.

[crazyfists]

This league is just a mess to get out of, there are 10 teams that can challenge for the playoffs and with the one auto shot then it's the hardest league to get out of. I think we're heading in the right direction under IB and will get promoted with him in time, this season is much harder than last in my opinion to get promoted in the teams IB is against by and large, much improved from what we faced last season and we're still in the mix if we win the games in hand. I wouldn't worry just yet but think we need to accept that winning the league is maybe not the way we're going to go up, playoffs might be the best bet.

[Davy500]

Well "then what" is a good question Davy. You appear quite keen to suggest there is no improvement or that there are problems. However I do not see you coming to the fore with any suggestions for solutions. This season there are 3 teams in this division that are better financed than any league 1 or league 2 team and that is now starting to show with 2 of them up the top and other one making moves towards it. Surely you would expect at least a couple of them in the top 3 at the end of the season. Then there are 3 teams in the mix over achieving you would say in Halifax, Bromley and Boreham Wood, but I bet 1 or 2 of them make the play offs. It is clear we need to mix it up a bit away from home. What's the potential solution Davy?

Well the solution was very simple,

- to have given Ardley the whole of his second season, and see how he fared in the play offs the second time round, not just replacing him on the absurd assumption Burchnall was available

- more importantly to have gone for a manager with some experience and success at this level