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Thread: Now its decision time, will you renew or not ?

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    I’m blaming them for the HOLE we are in. All of it
    I’m not buying because the product is cr@p. The organisation and leadership doesn’t know if it’s Arthur or Martha and haven’t a clear vision about the way the product is going to be shaped in the future….

    I’ve got the money Nudge. Not the problem. The problem is like this …. If the Butcher sells me cr@p meat, do I still buy meat from him because I’ve known him for years and years ??

    Would you ?
    What if the butcher got a new supplier ? you might be prepared to try it because the butcher is trying to put things right but if you have made your mind up that you are never going back to this butchers again then fair enough thats your choice , buy your meat elsewhere or go veggie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    I’m blaming them for the HOLE we are in. All of it
    I’m not buying because the product is cr@p. The organisation and leadership doesn’t know if it’s Arthur or Martha and haven’t a clear vision about the way the product is going to be shaped in the future….

    I’ve got the money Nudge. Not the problem. The problem is like this …. If the Butcher sells me cr@p meat, do I still buy meat from him because I’ve known him for years and years ??

    Would you ?
    As I've stated since the board was reconstructed Jules I'm currently at POTD level , pick my games and see how it goes .

    I looked at Jean Cryne at the Press Conference and it's clear they've had a tough time under the Lee and PMG tenure and my heart went out to her .

    We are in better hands right now although whether we are in competent hands remains to be seen .

    Very very damaged this club right now , Lee and PMG have set us back years , probably back to the time Wilson took us down in 2013 i reckon but with more financial baggage .

    It's not good by any means .

    Totally understand your view Jules .

  3. #23
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    Id have thought 2002 was a worse time for us Animal when we dropped to Lg one.
    Although I don't think many fans knew of the difficulties we were in at the time, or were about to be in.

    PMG have indeed caused us a lot of grief, and Im guessing stress and heartache as well for the Cryne's. Its a despicable set up where I bet they are still always looking for more clubs to own, because enough is never enough with people like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    As I've stated since the board was reconstructed Jules I'm currently at POTD level , pick my games and see how it goes .

    I looked at Jean Cryne at the Press Conference and it's clear they've had a tough time under the Lee and PMG tenure and my heart went out to her .

    We are in better hands right now although whether we are in competent hands remains to be seen .

    Very very damaged this club right now , Lee and PMG have set us back years , probably back to the time Wilson took us down in 2013 i reckon but with more financial baggage .

    It's not good by any means .

    Totally understand your view Jules .
    Just wish we didn’t feel like this.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    You renewed? Really….?
    I hope you guys who renew get rewarded….. not my intention to say you will be wrong……
    Your choice,….. but will things change whilst 6, or 7 k renew after FAILURE, AND DERELICTION of leadership? …

    My god…. what do the owners have to do to get you to back off.?
    So who do you want to run BFC instead of the new board with the Crynes on it? consider that there is no one else on the planet willing to buy us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponty End View Post
    So who do you want to run BFC instead of the new board with the Crynes on it? consider that there is no one else on the planet willing to buy us.
    Well………, Do we KNOW no one wants to buy? What I want is a sale that removes all remnants of PMG. Totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    Just wish we didn’t feel like this.
    Jules I'll be the first to admit I'm not the supporter I once was , there's probably loads of reasons why that is , the way the game is today , the fact that players and manager's aren't here more than two consecutive seasons , a happy more contented personal life , my grandkids , who knows mate .

    I'm not as enthusiastic about doing the hard yards anymore , I feel the bitter cold in winter more than I did , I'm far more tired than I was as a younger man with work .

    I lived for the club in the past , this is the bloke who walked out of his own sisters wedding reception to go to Oakwell and return afterwards , home to West Ham I mean c'mon !!!

    That wouldn't happen today even if she decided to get married on the day of the Play Off Final at Wembley .

    As I say Jules I get where you are at but we can't punish the club for ever either mate .

    Go to the first home game perhaps , see how you feel .

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    Apparently we've passed 6.5 and we're hoping to eventually top 7 thousand on the ST sales.
    And that for me for a start, is impressive considering the appalling position PMG have put us in.
    And I give credit to all fans who have renewed, and there could be more now depending on this upcoming choice of coach/manager!.
    It's dragged on a bit longer than what it should have done, but we all know how important this decision could be.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    Well………, Do we KNOW no one wants to buy? What I want is a sale that removes all remnants of PMG. Totally.
    We don't know 100% no one wants to buy us but on past evidence it seems highly unlikely, Patrick Cryne was searching for buyers for several years prior to the PMG sale & Patrick bought us reluctantly in the first place because no one else was prepared to step in.

    Given the financial hole we are in its difficult to see any buyers coming out of thin air who would improve the situation, also we aren't a club up for sale so I would suggest the current set up is going to be in place for the foreseeable with perhaps the chairman purchasing Conway & Lees shares in the future.
    Last edited by Ponty End; 02-06-2022 at 07:07 PM.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Acido View Post
    Apparently we've passed 6.5 and we're hoping to eventually top 7 thousand on the ST sales.
    And that for me for a start, is impressive considering the appalling position PMG have put us in.
    And I give credit to all fans who have renewed, and there could be more now depending on this upcoming choice of coach/manager!.
    It's dragged on a bit longer than what it should have done, but we all know how important this decision could be.
    7K would match the last season in league one under stendel and would be a decent amount particularly with cost of living rises & would be much higher than many suggested.

    As bad as this season has been we were in the play offs for the premier league a year ago so its not as if we have had 5 years of constant decline & crucially the new board with Jean Cryne has given many fans hope that we can at least start moving back in the right direction.
    Last edited by Ponty End; 02-06-2022 at 07:22 PM.

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