Really interesting conversation this.

I'm pro PR but I think some people are missing a trick if they think moving to PR would turn Britain into a socialist paradise.

You would end up with Labour fracturing into Corbynite and Blairite parties, and before/during/after an election campaign they would have to compromise on policy, and the end result might not be very different to what we have now.

In addition we would probably have a centrist party (which might be the Blairite party plus a few moderate Conservatives).

On the other end of the spectrum the same thing would happen to the Conservative party and as well as helping parties further to the left it would also help those further to the right.

The big problem in my view remains that the number of people willing to vote for an old fashioned 'economic left' is quite high, but the economic left is so wedded to the current 'cultural left' or 'intellectual left' (mass immigration, extreme political correctness, perceived or real anti patriotism) that people would probably prefer to vote for the far right, which offers the working class something similar to the economic left but without the compromise on cultural issues.