Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post
I'm well aware of that. Water off a ducks back.

You're not going to change the hearts and minds of individuals by constantly sniping at them and telling them they can't think for themselves. Many have grafted hard and contributed throughout their lives. Helped fund your education.

You can't deride everyone because they don't have the same IQ as you. The media certainly is a massive influence but I think you're extremely dismissive of people's own life experiences. You don't know what's happened to them or what's contributed to their mindset. They want their life's to be better and they want to look after their families.

They have the same number of votes as you do. You constantly saying you form your opinion from different sources is poppycock. Your mind's made up. Your views don't change.

It's let us all pay more because we can afford it. Well if I'm earning more than you, I'm already paying more than you and I don't want to pay more. I think too much of it goes to waste. You give more and catch up if you want. I'd rather give my surplus cash to help my own flesh and blood. Yet that makes me nasty, even though I contribute 10x more than you do.

I'll say it. Anyone who has made their own wealth and is paying full UK tax are not the people who should be targeted. I don't care who they are. If you don't think it's enough get a better job and do your bit. I've done my bit and get taxed accordingly. Every penny is paid to the HMRC.

Now if we're looking at the aristocracy who have inherited wealth through the ages, I have a different view. Tax dodgers, same view. Benefit fraudsters, same view. Overspending and waste, same view. I could go on and on. Get your politicians to sort that out instead of doing the usual. People are sick of it.

Just over half of adults pay income tax in this country. The burden can't be theirs and theirs only. Round in circles we go.
I think you're being a bit oversensitive here howdy. Crash didn't have to speak out his opinion on the less well off people. He chose to give his opinion, and I chose to rib him for it, as Grist does with anyone that he disagrees with. I don't recall you picking him up on his repeated 'Sheeple' attacks? I was very hurt you know. He's saying the same thing as me. Why is it different now? I'm sure crash can defend himself, just as we have to when Grist unleashes his barbed pearlers that no one in the world would have thought of but him!

So, bottom line is someone else will have to contribute more? As if you and I have been completely rinsed by the tax man! Have we cobblers! We're both fortunate to have earned well, we're both peed off with what we see around us and compared to some countries our tax contributions are relatively low. If we want better stuff, those that can afford it are gonna have to pay for it. Get yer hand in yer pocket yer tight get!