O/T:- The NHS strike - for or against?

[Elite_Pie]

Brexit will be seen by future historians as the start of the UK's downward path. Each day it becomes more apparent that it was a dreadful error and certainly never yielded the £375 million a week for the NHS that the charlatan in chief Boris Johnson promised.

It's also not yielded all those fantastic trade agreements he promised, and it's not stopped illegal immigrants arriving on our shores.

Can anyone tell me the positives of Brexit?

[Robertomac]

Other than our newfound ability to change the position of the escape signs in the iDartford tunnel, which is of course a huge benefit, I'm struggling 😅.

My fear is the full misery of Brexit has only just started...

[Elite_Pie]

Other than our newfound ability to change the position of the escape signs in the iDartford tunnel, which is of course a huge benefit, I'm struggling 😅.

My fear is the full misery of Brexit has only just started...

Don't forget we can now get navy blue passports instead of burgundy passports.

Isn't it great taking control of our own destiny?

[SwalePie]

Don't forget we can now get navy blue passports instead of burgundy passports.

Isn't it great taking control of our own destiny?

Well at least so far it hasn't all turned out to be an unmitigated disaster based on lies. Oh hang on...

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Well at least so far it hasn't all turned out to be an unmitigated disaster based on lies. Oh hang on...

I wait for the day when we next have a Tory Minister on TV saying that we are a democracy and we voted for Brexit why they are not challenged and say the Vote was based on lies , pure and simple !! (as that x-factor group once sang about !!)
and ask them to do a detailed document where that 350 million a week has been spent
just a thought !

[upthemaggies]

Can anyone tell me the positives of Brexit?

Yes, as somebody who voted remain, I can, on the assumption we don't re-join before 2030.

Western civilisation as we know it is going to collapse, it's a matter of when, not if. There's less chance post-Brexit (however small) that the UK and the EU will descend into chaos and embark on the process of restoring order at the exact same time using the same blueprint, which means one will serve as a warning to the other as to what happens when you embrace extreme measures as the solution.

Given the history of the UK and that of Europe, it's more likely going to be Europe that ends up resembling a 21st century version of Nazi Germany or Communist Russia than we do and on that basis I'd anticipate that we'll eventually look back on Brexit as the first step to a very lucky escape from the most disturbing event of our age.

Greater and darker forces may of course ensure that all countries fall into line simultaneously regardless of an alliance or lack of.

[Elite_Pie]

Given the history of the UK and that of Europe, it's more likely going to be Europe that ends up resembling a 21st century version of Nazi Germany or Communist Russia than we do and on that basis I'd anticipate that we'll eventually look back on Brexit as the first step to a very lucky escape from the most disturbing event of our age.

But back then we fought against Nazi Germany and their allies, and won because us and our allies were stronger. If were planning to take on Europe this time, we won't have any allies because we've binned them all through Brexit. Still, at least we've taken control of our own destiny.

[OP67]

It's also not yielded all those fantastic trade agreements he promised, and it's not stopped illegal immigrants arriving on our shores.

Can anyone tell me the positives of Brexit?

The fact Derby based Bombardier lost a UK contract because of EU rules that allowed a German company to bid on a UK project and undercut and therefore get the contract according to EU rules which states it must go to the lowest bidder! It was an absolute disgrace.

Also the farmers destroying 1000's of miles of hedge rows and all it's habitats because the the EU paid them a subsidy (income support basically) according the acres they farmed so the farmers made the fields as big as possibe for more money!!

As for the £350m that got swallowed up by the money pits that are PFI contracts and the poor management of the NHS.

I still believe it's the right move in the long run and it was never going to change overnight especially with bloody Covid coming along. I can also see other countries leaving the EU in the future. The Netherlands and Italy are fairly on the edge, even France itself is wobbling.

[Elite_Pie]

The fact Derby based Bombardier lost a UK contract because of EU rules that allowed a German company to bid on a UK project and undercut and therefore get the contract according to EU rules which states it must go to the lowest bidder! It was an absolute disgrace.

Or maybe the Germans were more efficient and offered a better value product than Bombardier did?

Also the farmers destroying 1000's of miles of hedge rows and all it's habitats because the the EU paid them a subsidy (income support basically) according the acres they farmed so the farmers made the fields as big as possibe for more money!!

So our farmers were happy to destroy 1000's of miles of hedge rows and all it's habitats just to get an EU subsidy?

As for the £350m that got swallowed up by the money pits that are PFI contracts and the poor management of the NHS.

Get real! The £350 million for the NHS would never, ever have happened under any circumstances. It was an outright lie.

You believe Brexit is the right move, I believe it's a disaster. Time will tell which one of us is right.

[OP67]

Or maybe the Germans were more efficient and offered a better value product than Bombardier did?



So our farmers were happy to destroy 1000's of miles of hedge rows and all it's habitats just to get an EU subsidy?



Get real! The £350 million for the NHS would never, ever have happened under any circumstances. It was an outright lie.

You believe Brexit is the right move, I believe it's a disaster. Time will tell which one of us is right.

I care about British business and workers and I care about our environment, unlike you who couldn't give a sh*t!!!

The UK Government did everything in it's power to get people to vote remain. They even spent millions on a bias leaflet that was posted through every door yet people still voted to leave

Smiley happy faces on the Remain side of the leaflet, Red danger danger and no pictures on the Leave side.