Rapist Met Officer - Carrick

[mickd1961]

I heard recently about a young relative of mine who has recently graduated and landed herself with a job in Birmingham which mostly revolves around monitoring CCTV in the city for dodgy motors. My understanding is that the job is affiliated with the Police and that she is paid about £80k a year. How can this be right given that new officers on the beat are paid a fraction of this? The old adage about paying peanuts and only getting monkeys holds more than a semblance of truth.

The money side of this is a red herring, if you paid £80k a year to a junior copper you’re no less likely to avoid employing a racist, ***ist, wife beater or crook.

One of the biggest problems in the U.K. police force over the past 30 years is the policy of allowing university graduates to leapfrog coppers who start on the beat and allow them into senior positions with zero experience of treading the beat or ever doing proper police work.

This has lead to the “Woke” culture we now see in the police and to weak management.

Police acquaintances I’ve chatted to over many years have constantly derided this policy and admitted that coppers at the coal face have zero respect for their senior officers.

This in itself leads to people like this turd Carrick believing they can get away with almost anything.

The scale of this man’s offending is truly staggering, it’s incomprehensible to me that nobody in senior ranks had the contacts and the nous to know about this bloke.

That said, even if they did they’d likely be too weak and insipid to do anything about it for fear of bring scrutiny upon themselves.

Our police force isn’t fit for service, it’s just like the NHS, riven with top heavy management who lack the wit and ability to organise abs manage properly.

NHS, Police, Fire and many other large public institutions should be properly monitored and constantly assessed by totally impartial private organisations who are not hamstrung by “old boy” networks and being scared of rocking the boat.

The starting point as far as our police are concerned is that a private body should now be put in place to do a deep dive into EVERY serving officer.

I’d start by demanding their mobile phones and the log in details to all of their social media accounts........this will very quickly bring to the surface huge numbers of unsuitable characters.

A few years ago I thought about becoming very involved in my local football club and maybe even taking it over.

One of the reasons I didn’t was because I’m not a public person, even though my business is known across the world I’m pretty anonymous and I wanted to stay that way, I don’t enjoy the limelight and the bull sh it.

The other reason is because I’ve made strident comment and in earlier days, in appropriate comment on social media including being ***ist.

Chanting “You’re too fit to referee” at a female ref ( I made up and started that chant 10 years ago ) and posting on a club FB page for example and on here, enough in these times to get me sacked as a club chairman and to receive all sorts of crap in the media.

I like to think I’m pretty self aware now, I realised that by becoming a more public local figure people would dig and find historic stuff that would be thrown at me......rightly so I will admit.

It would be so easy to dig up this info on our police officers but it’s just like nobody has the balls or the intelligence to do this very simple thing.

[Dubbag]

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It's never a one day event but an accumulation of small undermining events that chip away at the fundamentals of society.

Governments, banks, judges and the law, police upholders of the law, priests and other social institutions in the society.
Global society as well as national societies are all in trouble now.....💥💥

[Leicesterbaggie]

The money side of this is a red herring, if you paid £80k a year to a junior copper you’re no less likely to avoid employing a racist, ***ist, wife beater or crook.

One of the biggest problems in the U.K. police force over the past 30 years is the policy of allowing university graduates to leapfrog coppers who start on the beat and allow them into senior positions with zero experience of treading the beat or ever doing proper police work.

This has lead to the “Woke” culture we now see in the police and to weak management.

Police acquaintances I’ve chatted to over many years have constantly derided this policy and admitted that coppers at the coal face have zero respect for their senior officers.

This in itself leads to people like this turd Carrick believing they can get away with almost anything.

The scale of this man’s offending is truly staggering, it’s incomprehensible to me that nobody in senior ranks had the contacts and the nous to know about this bloke.

That said, even if they did they’d likely be too weak and insipid to do anything about it for fear of bring scrutiny upon themselves.

Our police force isn’t fit for service, it’s just like the NHS, riven with top heavy management who lack the wit and ability to organise abs manage properly.

NHS, Police, Fire and many other large public institutions should be properly monitored and constantly assessed by totally impartial private organisations who are not hamstrung by “old boy” networks and being scared of rocking the boat.

The starting point as far as our police are concerned is that a private body should now be put in place to do a deep dive into EVERY serving officer.

I’d start by demanding their mobile phones and the log in details to all of their social media accounts........this will very quickly bring to the surface huge numbers of unsuitable characters.

A few years ago I thought about becoming very involved in my local football club and maybe even taking it over.

One of the reasons I didn’t was because I’m not a public person, even though my business is known across the world I’m pretty anonymous and I wanted to stay that way, I don’t enjoy the limelight and the bull sh it.

The other reason is because I’ve made strident comment and in earlier days, in appropriate comment on social media including being ***ist.

Chanting “You’re too fit to referee” at a female ref ( I made up and started that chant 10 years ago ) and posting on a club FB page for example and on here, enough in these times to get me sacked as a club chairman and to receive all sorts of crap in the media.

I like to think I’m pretty self aware now, I realised that by becoming a more public local figure people would dig and find historic stuff that would be thrown at me......rightly so I will admit.

It would be so easy to dig up this info on our police officers but it’s just like nobody has the balls or the intelligence to do this very simple thing.

You’ve made some very good points here and I totally agree with you regarding the promotion of graduates into senior positions without serving an apprentiship ‘on the beat.’

[Omegstrat6]

You’ve made some very good points here and I totally agree with you regarding the promotion of graduates into senior positions without serving an apprentiship ‘on the beat.’

I agree about the fast tracking graduates becoming an issue. Nothing inherently wrong in this as you are buying their (supposed) potential and in the past companies would ensure that they underwent pretty lengthy "cooks tours" and training so that they gained practical experience at the sharp end of the business in the areas they had been taken on for. The vast majority of graduates tend to have little life experience as most have been closeted within the education system and are likely not to have had a job before or had to deal with "real life" too much. This level of training and experience at the sharp end was a form of them "earning their stripes" before being given a post and helped ward off the old "bright, but no common sense" accusations.

Sadly, I see that this level of training and practical experience for graduates across a variety of sectors has much declined. The result is that, too often, graduates are given positions before they are really ready which leads to decisions being made where the implications (that may be obvious to some at the sharp end) are not properly considered and results in an unhealthy "us and them" culture. Neither are good for business or the individuals concerned.

[baggieal]

I agree about the fast tracking graduates becoming an issue. Nothing inherently wrong in this as you are buying their (supposed) potential and in the past companies would ensure that they underwent pretty lengthy "cooks tours" and training so that they gained practical experience at the sharp end of the business in the areas they had been taken on for. The vast majority of graduates tend to have little life experience as most have been closeted within the education system and are likely not to have had a job before or had to deal with "real life" too much. This level of training and experience at the sharp end was a form of them "earning their stripes" before being given a post and helped ward off the old "bright, but no common sense" accusations.

Sadly, I see that this level of training and practical experience for graduates across a variety of sectors has much declined. The result is that, too often, graduates are given positions before they are really ready which leads to decisions being made where the implications (that may be obvious to some at the sharp end) are not properly considered and results in an unhealthy "us and them" culture. Neither are good for business or the individuals concerned.

Depends who is recruiting graduates and the resources. Many large supermarkets ie Asda have a graduate recruitment programme so it’s done properly. Successful graduates will be pulled from almost 1000 applicants and they undergo a three year intensive programme around every department. This includes 6 months on the shop floor packing shelves and engaging with customers. The logic is to progress bright graduates with a good university degree to senior management. It works!

Likewise the once was graduate at TUI U.K. David Burling is now one of the top directors in all their European operations. I knew David and again he came from university and a very very sharp cookie. TUI U.K. propelled him to the top and this was their vision. It worked as he’s mega bright and well thought of within Tour Operating!

To slate graduates for the sake of it shows an individuals ignorance. Most of the time it’s bitterness that they never had this opportunity themselves! I too never had this opportunity but have seen many graduates first hand who are now either senior managers or board directors. Believe me they have made a difference to their companies ie the example of TUI U.K.!

Many cops can’t string a sentence together and have not benefited from a good education so they hardly will become the future leaders of the police force! That’s not rocket science!

[kettering_baggie]

Half the problem is ‘wokeism’ and the fear of offending anyone or breaching their ‘uman rights; it’s led to weakness in many areas of life, the police included.

[Leicesterbaggie]

Depends who is recruiting graduates and the resources. Many large supermarkets ie Asda have a graduate recruitment programme so it’s done properly. Successful graduates will be pulled from almost 1000 applicants and they undergo a three year intensive programme around every department. This includes 6 months on the shop floor packing shelves and engaging with customers. The logic is to progress bright graduates with a good university degree to senior management. It works!

Likewise the once was graduate at TUI U.K. David Burling is now one of the top directors in all their European operations. I knew David and again he came from university and a very very sharp cookie. TUI U.K. propelled him to the top and this was their vision. It worked as he’s mega bright and well thought of within Tour Operating!

To slate graduates for the sake of it shows an individuals ignorance. Most of the time it’s bitterness that they never had this opportunity themselves! I too never had this opportunity but have seen many graduates first hand who are now either senior managers or board directors. Believe me they have made a difference to their companies ie the example of TUI U.K.!

Many cops can’t string a sentence together and have not benefited from a good education so they hardly will become the future leaders of the police force! That’s not rocket science!

Just because someone is a university graduate, how does that qualify them to be a good policeman? Yes, you have to be reasonably intelligent but not necessarily university educated. I firmly believe that they have to have done their time at the ‘chalk face’ to understand the nuances of the job. It may be OK to fast track graduates in the supermarket industry or as a travel agent but not the police force.

[baggieal]

Just because someone is a university graduate, how does that qualify them to be a good policeman? Yes, you have to be reasonably intelligent but not necessarily university educated. I firmly believe that they have to have done their time at the ‘chalk face’ to understand the nuances of the job. It may be OK to fast track graduates in the supermarket industry or as a travel agent but not the police force.

I was talking about graduates in any industry as some seem to have a hang up about them! Good luck to those who value education and get good grades - go to university for a good degree or lucky to get on a graduate scheme with a large blue chip brand. I wish I did but hey - I admire all those who get a great education as it sets them up for life!

Maybe the police want graduates in top jobs hence graduates to go into forensics - become officers etc. You do need a good education for some roles and not the old 3 O Levels which required no effort. I do agree though the same principle should apply like a supermarket grad role spending time on the shop floor. Police graduates should spend time on the beat - tagging dead bodies etc and arresting druggies! I can totally see why the forces recruit graduates though as the same principles apply! You not going to fast track PC Plod or have a strategy to do so when he may have 3 old O Levels to their name!

[mickd1961]

Depends who is recruiting graduates and the resources. Many large supermarkets ie Asda have a graduate recruitment programme so it’s done properly. Successful graduates will be pulled from almost 1000 applicants and they undergo a three year intensive programme around every department. This includes 6 months on the shop floor packing shelves and engaging with customers. The logic is to progress bright graduates with a good university degree to senior management. It works!

Likewise the once was graduate at TUI U.K. David Burling is now one of the top directors in all their European operations. I knew David and again he came from university and a very very sharp cookie. TUI U.K. propelled him to the top and this was their vision. It worked as he’s mega bright and well thought of within Tour Operating!

To slate graduates for the sake of it shows an individuals ignorance. Most of the time it’s bitterness that they never had this opportunity themselves! I too never had this opportunity but have seen many graduates first hand who are now either senior managers or board directors. Believe me they have made a difference to their companies ie the example of TUI U.K.!

Many cops can’t string a sentence together and have not benefited from a good education so they hardly will become the future leaders of the police force! That’s not rocket science!

There’s a big difference between a graduate jumping a shelf stacker to a better job at ASDA, although I still believe that people who start at the very bottom like I did should be able to aspire to be the CEO of a company, compared to an Inspector running a police force.

If you haven’t had “boots on the ground” and done the grimy end of policing then you can’t gain the respect or credibility from your staff.

Inspector of budgets and paper clips......absolutely fine, dishing out orders to the troops.......you’re having a laugh.

You’re obsessed with this university mentality AL yet you hate Wokeism and the two are inextricably linked so I don’t really get your stance.

For every one of your daughter who are high achievers and doing a very good job there’s a large number of graduates wrongly positioned doing a bad job.

Companies have also become obsessed with graduates.

I employed one last year, a friend, everyone was delighted when he departed after 4 months.

99% of the time I’d rather have a career copper in charge who’s done it from the ground up.

As for university.......I’m not personally bitter, I could’ve gone but I didn’t want to as I wasn’t prepared to study for more exams and I wanted to earn wages earlier.

There’s no right or wrong with this education or not argument but I wonder if when visiting hospital for such as your serious complaint, do you want a first year student who jumped the queue doing your operation or the guy who’s worked his way up over 30 years and has a stellar record?

Not the best analogy but the best the came to mind.

[baggieal]

There’s a big difference between a graduate jumping a shelf stacker to a better job at ASDA, although I still believe that people who start at the very bottom like I did should be able to aspire to be the CEO of a company, compared to an Inspector running a police force.

If you haven’t had “boots on the ground” and done the grimy end of policing then you can’t gain the respect or credibility from your staff.

Inspector of budgets and paper clips......absolutely fine, dishing out orders to the troops.......you’re having a laugh.

You’re obsessed with this university mentality AL yet you hate Wokeism and the two are inextricably linked so I don’t really get your stance.

For every one of your daughter who are high achievers and doing a very good job there’s a large number of graduates wrongly positioned doing a bad job.

Companies have also become obsessed with graduates.

I employed one last year, a friend, everyone was delighted when he departed after 4 months.

99% of the time I’d rather have a career copper in charge who’s done it from the ground up.

As for university.......I’m not personally bitter, I could’ve gone but I didn’t want to as I wasn’t prepared to study for more exams and I wanted to earn wages earlier.

There’s no right or wrong with this education or not argument but I wonder if when visiting hospital for such as your serious complaint, do you want a first year student who jumped the queue doing your operation or the guy who’s worked his way up over 30 years and has a stellar record?

Not the best analogy but the best the came to mind.

Hardly a graduate Mick joining a company with 10 staff! Now on to operations as you have mentioned it - five years medical training after a good medical degree! Your not going to get a no achiever in an operating room unless he/she is on the night shift cleaning staff!

Whatever floats anyones boat! I only see graduates in large corporate companies with around 1000 staff. Proper separate graduate recruiting dept - all done properly - and graduates usually end up at the top. Any company advertising for a graduate with less than fifty staff - well it’s not a graduate FFS.

Still say those best qualities in life are work ethic and personality. Nobody will get far if they are a boring c unt and if you have work ethic - you will look at ways to make money!

Your not going to make money by working for the pathetic minimum wage so hats off to those who start selling on eBay etc or pinching someone else’s concept from business and provide a better service. That’s life!