⚽Match Thread vs. Halifax Town FC 28.01.23 [NL]

[Kyle95]

That's the main issue i have with Wrexham, no problem with the club but some of the fans christ almighty deluded comes to mind. I watched them against Bromley they were shocking for 70 minutes. Again against Maidstone, they almost threw it away. I'm not being funny i don't understand where the arrogance has come from. I think they have forgotten Notts and an ovehyped Chesterfield have already beaten them this season.

[matt_magpie]

Yes I think it's something we have to accept that adopting "The Yeovil" as I now call it has become the blueprint for teams certainly within the bottom half of the table coming to Meadow Lane. A draw away from home is the best they believe they can get and is a bonus the rest is damage limitation. As someone mentioned it's almost like a continuation of the previous game except the oppositions kit is a different colour compared to the last game.

Dover were a prime example of this last season as you say adopting the low block which at times was a 6-3-1 formation with a pacy young lad up top as an outlet. On the occasions they did get out of their half he was the one that drove them forward on a counter attack.

The thing is teams know we are a very good footballing side. They can try to play our game but know that we are far superior so they will not be able to match us and they will get punished. That's not an arrogance by the way it's the style way we play and the quality we have. Also they know that we will dominate possession. We win the psychological aspect of the game as well because chasing and pressing takes up a lot of effort and energy, and it grinds teams down and they become demoralised because they have nothing to show for their efforts.

So yes some teams will be happy to come away with a 0-1 or 0-2 because it's about self preservation and also protecting their goal difference.

Yesterday was another one of those games where we could have scored 4 or 5 but we just lacked that killer pass in the box. Also a couple of decisions were not quite the right ones when in and around the oppositions box. We were not as clinical as we can be.

To be having conversations about winning and needing more goals to go back to top and not being top having lost once in 28 matches just shows how insane this season is and how high the standard is that both ourselves and Wrexham are setting for each other. We are basically motivating and pushing each other for more. Just look at the other leagues above. If we were in League Two we would be 10 points clear of second place. In League One and the Championship 7 points clear of second place.

In all the professional leagues in England there is only us, Wrexham and Burnley on +60 points.

Agree with all that, our success has become a bit of a downer for people attending the games. I think most of us would like more of a ding dong game with teams having a go, but on the whole it isn’t happening and you can’t blame Notts.

[OP67]

Agree with all that, our success has become a bit of a downer for people attending the games. I think most of us would like more of a ding dong game with teams having a go, but on the whole it isn’t happening and you can’t blame Notts.

Probably why we've done so well away from home this season, teams have to show they want to win. Luckily Solihul are still pushing for a play off place so they'll be more open. Unluckily they seem to have found their scoring boots in time for Tuesday so will be close.

[Notts78]

Yet they’ve scored no more goals than us albeit playing one game less. I don’t think we can do anything else if they are going to sit back for literally 85 mins. What are Wrexham going to do different other than long throws? Theres not much point going long as there going sit back at eat it up and IF you win the second ball somewhere around the edge of the box it’s no different to us getting there by passing as their already sat deep anyway. That said I would have liked to see a couple of balls clipped over for Langstaff, the only issue the ball and the run has to be perfect with them sitting deep.

We have scored a similar number of goals. My point remains that they score theres in a number of different ways which includes throw ins and set pieces. We simply don’t have that option when needed. You won’t have to go back far to see we have drawn games whilst Wrexham have won games late, normally via a scrappy set piece.
It doesn’t happen often but the few times we have struggled we haven’t had an option to change it up, hence the draws.
This is why I believe it’s imperative we get a big man who can come on up front when plan A doesn’t work.

[jacobncfc]

We have scored a similar number of goals. My point remains that they score theres in a number of different ways which includes throw ins and set pieces. We simply don’t have that option when needed. You won’t have to go back far to see we have drawn games whilst Wrexham have won games late, normally via a scrappy set piece.
It doesn’t happen often but the few times we have struggled we haven’t had an option to change it up, hence the draws.
This is why I believe it’s imperative we get a big man who can come on up front when plan A doesn’t work.

Wrexham are definitely better set up to deal with very defensive sides as they’ve got such a big aerial threat, so inviting crosses against them is suicidal really. We don’t have that, and it’s harder to pick your way through a massed defence then use the brute force approach.

Swings and round abouts, though. I think we’re much better suited to winning games where the opposition have a go and open up, because we’re extremely good at moving the ball quickly into space through the lines. It’s why their home record is amazing and our away record is amazing.

[laddo]

Good discussion and in agreement on a lot of it.

Would also like what 78 wants with a big man addition to increase the options but getting in one that's good enough and happy to know he's going to be a Plan B/C player predominantly coming off the bench if at all is tough even for the excellent #radar

[Rainbowpie]

Good discussion and in agreement on a lot of it.

Would also like what 78 wants with a big man addition to increase the options but getting in one that's good enough and happy to know he's going to be a Plan B/C player predominantly coming off the bench if at all is tough even for the excellent #radar

Playing Devils advocate, trying to shoe horn and tall striker into the team as a plan B could have a negative effect all round. We would have to train set pieces and scenarios of playing more direct football, therefore taking our eye off what is and has been successful all season.

[optipez]

We have scored a similar number of goals. My point remains that they score theres in a number of different ways which includes throw ins and set pieces. We simply don’t have that option when needed. You won’t have to go back far to see we have drawn games whilst Wrexham have won games late, normally via a scrappy set piece.
It doesn’t happen often but the few times we have struggled we haven’t had an option to change it up, hence the draws.
This is why I believe it’s imperative we get a big man who can come on up front when plan A doesn’t work.

I think we could do with a big no 9. Kyle Wootton or someone like him would be a game changer. We offer no threat from set pieces and it's a big ask to expect Langstaff to go up against back fives, pretty much all of whom are 6'+ by himself. It would be an option in games where the breakthrough isn't coming, Yeovil, Boreham Wood type games where we just need to unsettle well drilled defences with a bit of physicality.

[the_anticlough]

Playing Devils advocate, trying to shoe horn and tall striker into the team as a plan B could have a negative effect all round. We would have to train set pieces and scenarios of playing more direct football, therefore taking our eye off what is and has been successful all season.

Don't waste your time Rainbow, many on here will never stop dreaming about their 'big man'

[matt_magpie]

Playing Devils advocate, trying to shoe horn and tall striker into the team as a plan B could have a negative effect all round. We would have to train set pieces and scenarios of playing more direct football, therefore taking our eye off what is and has been successful all season.

I agree, I think they/we have to believe in the process and the team constantly learn. The players will now be developing on how to play against it, yes we only scored one but at the same time the opposition didn’t have one single shot, regardless of who you’re playing that is some stat.