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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    Aye you're right.
    Bring back Alex Salmond.
    At the risk of drowning in a deluge of Faux Outrage. That's no a bad idea at this stage of the proceedings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    At the risk of drowning in a deluge of Faux Outrage. That's no a bad idea at this stage of the proceedings.
    Nah, he's had his day, anyway Mason does like him for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    At the risk of drowning in a deluge of Faux Outrage. That's no a bad idea at this stage of the proceedings.
    He got it right in 2007 when he said that the key to independence was demonstrating that they could make devolution work with the then devolved powers. Post-2014, major areas of policy and responsibility have suffered catastrophically largely due to the fecklessness of average intelligence and limited ability ministers, few of whom have been sanctioned for failure. The bleating about limited powers and underfunding by (dog whistle) “Westminster” are convenient excuses for lack of talent, uselessness, and laziness, rather than pîshing with the urethtra one has, and making the best of it to engender confidence in the party’s abilities. Most of the hopeless cûnts would get their cards if working outside the bubble. Salmond was right 16 years ago, but is among the sleaziest, creepiest, self-serving twâttybollixes around.

    As Chris Colqhoun said of Meiklebogs in Cloud Howe, “He makes me want to change my vest”.
    Last edited by 57vintage; 19-02-2023 at 01:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    He got it right in 2007 when he said that the key to independence was demonstrating that they could make devolution work with the then devolved powers. Post-2014, major areas of policy and responsibility have suffered catastrophically largely due to the fecklessness of average intelligence and limited ability ministers, few of whom have been sanctioned for failure. The bleating about limited powers and underfunding by (dog whistle) “Westminster” are convenient excuses for lack of talent, uselessness, and laziness, rather than pîshing with the urethtra one has, and making the best of it to engender confidence in the party’s abilities. Most of the hopeless cûnts would get their cards if working outside the bubble. Salmond was right 16 years ago, but is among the sleaziest, creepiest, self-serving twâttybollixes around.

    As Chris Colqhoun said of Meiklebogs in Cloud Howe, “He makes me want to change my vest”.
    Don't hold back there cowboy ! He most certainly is a "marmite" politician always has been. But if folk are honest they'd have to concede Salmond was a most accomplished politician and he scared the holy sh1t out of WM. But the stich-up had the desired effect and finished him off in serious politics his sunset song if you like. Think my point was someone of his ilk and without the baggage is needed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Don't hold back there cowboy ! He most certainly is a "marmite" politician always has been. But if folk are honest they'd have to concede Salmond was a most accomplished politician and he scared the holy sh1t out of WM. But the stich-up had the desired effect and finished him off in serious politics his sunset song if you like. Think my point was someone of his ilk and without the baggage is needed now.
    Perhaps, but would a morally-sanitised version of him (a) be acceptable to those parliamentary members satisfied just to have the status and sinecure without actually achieving anything? (b) exist in nationalist circles nowadays?

    Who do you have in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    Perhaps, but would a morally-sanitised version of him (a) be acceptable to those parliamentary members satisfied just to have the status and sinecure without actually achieving anything? (b) exist in nationalist circles nowadays?

    Who do you have in mind?
    Oh Jings !! ask the difficult question why don't you. I have absolutely no iidea. Does this person exist ? Nicola may have gone but her cabal remain so the last thing the Independence movement want is a continuity candidate like Angus H Robertson, Yousef arrogant beyond words, Keith Brown another continuity nobody.. Kate Forbes without the "Hell and Damnation " brigade might be OK certainly got the eye candy factor.. Colin Sim has effectively ruled himself out ... Fits Jo Grimond dein these days ? is there a Jo Junior ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Oh Jings !! ask the difficult question why don't you. I have absolutely no iidea. Does this person exist ? Nicola may have gone but her cabal remain so the last thing the Independence movement want is a continuity candidate like Angus H Robertson, Yousef arrogant beyond words, Keith Brown another continuity nobody.. Kate Forbes without the "Hell and Damnation " brigade might be OK certainly got the eye candy factor.. Colin Sim has effectively ruled himself out ... Fits Jo Grimond dein these days ? is there a Jo Junior ?
    Thankfully, it’s not my problem, as is occasionally hinted at by the ageists. I’ll just have to deal with the consequenses of canny political blandness, timidity, and spin disguised as leadership. I backed out of it all in 1999 once the parliament was reconvened (with an energy-sapping postscript in 02-03 as Bush and Blair’s state terrorism disgusted and angered people) and tend to keep out of it now until some dick with an iPad rings the doorbell during an election campaign, and I pose the difficult questions.

    I doubt that I’ll be around, if it ever happens, to see the end of western neo-liberalism and its appalling end products.

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