Neal Ardley

[Jampie]

I think hindsight tells us that Ardley was burnt out when he was appointed. You can blame Hardy for that, but Ardley shouldn't have accepted the job if he wasn't in the frame of mind to give it 100%, which he clearly wasn't.

I agree with this in principle, but having been there and done that, sometimes when you're burned out you're the last person to know.

And it's hard to turn down a job offer when you're out of work.

Working for Hardy was probably also a nightmare. If you're burned out and in a "difficult" workplace, it gets worse, fast.

[LaxtonLad]

I agree with this in principle, but having been there and done that, sometimes when you're burned out you're the last person to know.

And it's hard to turn down a job offer when you're out of work.

Working for Hardy was probably also a nightmare. If you're burned out and in a "difficult" workplace, it gets worse, fast.

We've all 'been there and done that' but not many get a chance of a job to manage a football club, although if we did and were cr@p at it or 'burned out' because we've done it before and got nowhere, then not many of us would rely on being oh so nice to the cameras to gain sympathy from an audience he's just let down. Top Bloke?

Ardley didn't have to take the jobs he has, especially one that had a character like Hardy pushing his own ideas ahead of his managers. If Ardley didn't spot Hardy for the charletan he was then tough - we've all been there and done that.

[laddo]

Ok so now we are blaming him for taking a well paid job in football for a guaranteed period of time, 2.5 years?

Burnt out? Charleten owner? Ok, but you shouldn't be surprised he took the offer , I'm sure it was generous and I suspect AH can he very persuasive. False promises anyone? Lol

When times were good and we were challenging at the top end of L2 how many of us Notts fans spotted he was a charleten?! There weren't many of us.

Now we are trying to blame a guy on holiday who was at another club in a higher division for the past 6 years?! That's another NCM stretch for me.

He wasn't able to succeed at Notts, he wasn't good enough to albeit with far from ideal (I'm being super duper kind here) conditions to be allowed to actually attempt to do the job. He wasn't able to turn the club around.

However as has been said my the club, former head coach Ian Burchnall, current head coach Luke Williams his efforts and contributions should not only not be ignored or dismissed but should instead be recognised and highlighted for slowly turning the HMS NCFC around with dignity and at least setting it on the path in the right direction whilst playing possession based football on the deck.

I believe this enabled IB to progress the style of play with increased attacking intent and production and in turn helped LW to produce such a huge improvement on the field in such a quick period of time. With more attacks, more goals, more wins, more entertainment and more to tinkering.

"They'll ask me how I got her I'll say, "I saved my money"
They'll say, "Isn't she pretty? That ship called Dignity"

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Hes not going to Shrewsbury..!

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Ok so now we are blaming him for taking a well paid job in football for a guaranteed period of time, 2.5 years?

Burnt out? Charleten owner? Ok, but you shouldn't be surprised he took the offer , I'm sure it was generous and I suspect AH can he very persuasive. False promises anyone? Lol

When times were good and we were challenging at the top end of L2 how many of us Notts fans spotted he was a charleten?! There weren't many of us.

Now we are trying to blame a guy on holiday who was at another club in a higher division for the past 6 years?! That's another NCM stretch for me.

He wasn't able to succeed at Notts, he wasn't good enough to albeit with far from ideal (I'm being super duper kind here) conditions to be allowed to actually attempt to do the job. He wasn't able to turn the club around.

However as has been said my the club, former head coach Ian Burchnall, current head coach Luke Williams his efforts and contributions should not only not be ignored or dismissed but should instead be recognised and highlighted for slowly turning the HMS NCFC around with dignity and at least setting it on the path in the right direction whilst playing possession based football on the deck.

I believe this enabled IB to progress the style of play with increased attacking intent and production and in turn helped LW to produce such a huge improvement on the field in such a quick period of time. With more attacks, more goals, more wins, more entertainment and more to tinkering.

"They'll ask me how I got her I'll say, "I saved my money"
They'll say, "Isn't she pretty? That ship called Dignity"

You mean Ardleys footy was boring as f00k which enabled an attacking minded manager to come in and transform them don't you...!!.

[laddo]

No, not at all.

Ardley's footy was boring compared to Luke Williams and a much lesser extent Ian Burchnall's footy but it was pure entertainment when compared with the footy of managers such as Jocky Scott, Gudjon Thordarson, Ian McParland, Paul Ince. And it was actually football when compared to Steve Thompson's efforts#shudder and to a much lesser extent Kevin Nolans.

I certainly wouldn't call it attack minded, but I also certainly wouldn't call it boring. That first full season in the NL we were joint 2nd top scorers so couldn't be that defensive right?

[LaxtonLad]

Ok so now we are blaming him for taking a well paid job in football for a guaranteed period of time, 2.5 years?

Burnt out? Charleten owner? Ok, but you shouldn't be surprised he took the offer , I'm sure it was generous and I suspect AH can he very persuasive. False promises anyone? Lol

When times were good and we were challenging at the top end of L2 how many of us Notts fans spotted he was a charleten?! There weren't many of us.

Now we are trying to blame a guy on holiday who was at another club in a higher division for the past 6 years?! That's another NCM stretch for me.

He wasn't able to succeed at Notts, he wasn't good enough to albeit with far from ideal (I'm being super duper kind here) conditions to be allowed to actually attempt to do the job. He wasn't able to turn the club around.

However as has been said my the club, former head coach Ian Burchnall, current head coach Luke Williams his efforts and contributions should not only not be ignored or dismissed but should instead be recognised and highlighted for slowly turning the HMS NCFC around with dignity and at least setting it on the path in the right direction whilst playing possession based football on the deck.

I believe this enabled IB to progress the style of play with increased attacking intent and production and in turn helped LW to produce such a huge improvement on the field in such a quick period of time. With more attacks, more goals, more wins, more entertainment and more to tinkering.

"They'll ask me how I got her I'll say, "I saved my money"
They'll say, "Isn't she pretty? That ship called Dignity"

Never has a failed manager received such credit for failure.

[laddo]

Probably true lol and we all should know the reason for that.

Like most clubs we've had a hell of a lot of "failed managers".

[i961pie]

Merge the thread, it has been done to death.

If it carries on it will surely go into the handbags thread.

[Magpies1959]

As HMS NCFC, we have little choice but to play our football on the deck