Is it time to expand ?

[CAMiller]

Just did do,

And you had an old man moan about it.

But his old man's moan was only in response to your young man's moan!

[ilikecarling]

But his old man's moan was only in response to your young man's moan!

I wouldn’t say young man anymore, well on here yep young man.

But my young man moan was being ambitious whereas old man moans are just, well moaning about anything that may see change and improvement 🥴

[mellowmiller]

Reading this thread and this board reminds me of why we have no ambition.

Full of 60 plus year olds who are happy clappers just waiting for the grave type that like a good owd moan.

No wonder this boards dead, it’s run by the walking dead.

Build a stadium they will come, has that happened from a 3500 avg at millmoor?

Build more and expand or be happy with yer lot.

Smallest ground in South Yorkshire btw and apparently minute caravan dwellers two league below have a 16k stadium.

Ambition, show it.

Hmm, I'm not sure I'd trust the judgement of anyone who professes to like Carling......🙂

[millers88]

I think there's a few people that are forgetting that a stadium expansion benefits from the away support and not just home. Like I said on a previous post, add another tier on east stand and then give some part of the east stand and south to away supporters making about 5k then we would get so many gates well over 14k towards 16k in this division easily.

[caytonmiller]

Only problem I see with the ground is we are about 2k short on capacity. Mainly the away end and that would only be about 10 games per season.
The people can't sit together doesn't wash with me. How many fans are we talking about. 50. 100. 500. Is it worth the chairman spending a few million to get the extra 500 home fans.

[mellowmiller]

Only problem I see with the ground is we are about 2k short on capacity. Mainly the away end and that would only be about 10 games per season.
The people can't sit together doesn't wash with me. How many fans are we talking about. 50. 100. 500. Is it worth the chairman spending a few million to get the extra 500 home fans.

That's exactly the point I was making. Some people are talking as though there are thousands of people who don't come to games because they can't sit together.
I suspect that is rubbish.

[mellowmiller]

I think there's a few people that are forgetting that a stadium expansion benefits from the away support and not just home. Like I said on a previous post, add another tier on east stand and then give some part of the east stand and south to away supporters making about 5k then we would get so many gates well over 14k towards 16k in this division easily.

The away end last season was only a sell out or close to that for approximately half of the fixtures last season.
Your idea of 5k away supporters is just a pipedream for more than a handful of games and where are the extra 3k Rotherham fans going to come from?
I can only assume you've never been involved in scoping out any capital projects because if they're based on fantasy figures they either fail or end up costing far more than originally estimated.

[fc_miller]

I wonder why went with 12k in first place, when could have gone with 8k, 9k or 10k.
Not only that but lay foundations for 16k and 20k?

Maybe our design team and management dont scope out many capital projects?

[mellowmiller]

I wonder why went with 12k in first place, when could have gone with 8k, 9k or 10k.
Not only that but lay foundations for 16k and 20k?

Maybe our design team and management dont scope out many capital projects?

I think they got it spot on.

[millers88]

If NYS hold 16k with 5k to away supporters going into this season what would be everyone's guess on the average gate? I reckon we would average somewhere between 11.5k to 12k that would be another 1k on top of last season. Not sure how much more revenue we would make by having an extra 1k or so on top but it's not just this season it's forever so in long run it would benefit.