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Thread: Trafford?

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Fair enough question from Mrs BT, I would say it's because he knows the defenders in front of him aren't going to get their noggins on the ball, a problem Tom Heaton never had to worry about. If I was Vinni though I'd tell him to stop on his line, it's not doing him or the team any good coming and missing them.

    What I would say though, if anyone thinks Muric is the answer, they're asking the wrong question.
    My youngest son is a ringer for Muric; tall, dark and very handsome, I think that's why Mrs BT prefers him over young Jimmy.

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    Whilst JT may be a future England keeper, he is still learning on the job. Whilst throwing someone in the deep end may have its benefits, that is ok at the beginning of the season, but not now. We need some experience and strength between the posts. I don’t know if Muric would provide that.

    It would help JT to have a settled back line in front of him. Maybe we saw it yesterday with the new signings. Assignon, O’Shea, Estève and Taylor/ Delcroix might not be bad - certainly against lesser teams than Liverpool.

  3. #33
    We just keep repeating the same mistakes. Stan's blind man on a galloping horse can see it, why can't VK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post

    Trafford totally gifted them their first goal. He needs to either go on leave to somewhere sunny or stay on his f*cking line.
    In one respect I was almost pleased to see a goal conceded that was 100% down to Trafford, despite the constant moaning and whinging about him I can't recall another goal we've conceded that could be put entirely down to him.

    Incidentally, if anyone wants to see a real goalkeeping clown show, have a look at West Ham v Arsenal yesterday.

  5. #35
    Have to admit i've been defending Trafford a lot this season but that was dire V liverpool. Barely got off the ground for their first goal, and being caught on the ball was a contributor to their second.

    But it won't change anything IMO. He will keep getting picked because he will be deemed to have a higher potential.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Turf_Forever View Post
    Have to admit i've been defending Trafford a lot this season but that was dire V liverpool. Barely got off the ground for their first goal, and being caught on the ball was a contributor to their second.

    But it won't change anything IMO. He will keep getting picked because he will be deemed to have a higher potential.
    Elite managers will be watching young Jimmy and saying, "No thank you!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Elite managers will be watching young Jimmy and saying, "No thank you!".
    Sounds good to me, a season in the Championship after the PL will be a doddle for Jimmy, in 18 months time he'll be more the finished article and we'll have England's future keeper on our hands at just 22 years of age.

  8. #38
    Army88 has this one boxed off. Just stop conceding needless corners and stop giving away daft free-kicks in our defensive third.

    Double up on wingers to stop crosses coming in and the problem is solved.

    Failing that ask Brentford & Everton if we can clone Mee & Tarkowski and quick.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Sounds good to me, a season in the Championship after the PL will be a doddle for Jimmy, in 18 months time he'll be more the finished article and we'll have England's future keeper on our hands at just 22 years of age.
    The point I was making mon ami is that I can't see any of the top EPL rushing in with £30 million quid offers to take young Jimmy off our hands in July - can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    The point I was making mon ami is that I can't see any of the top EPL rushing in with £30 million quid offers to take young Jimmy off our hands in July - can you?
    True or not BT I think Newcastle have enquired but they would wouldn’t they when they got Pope for a snip of his worth and we bent over backwards and took the medicine in a clear out.

    There is a lot of mis understanding with Jimmy on here and I’m not blind to the fact he has flaws in his game but he’s a young man who will improve dramatically- the crap he gets on here is in justified with the exception of Saturday when he was at fault for their first ( it happens ).

    We have so many fundamentally wrong problems in our defending and weak midfield areas that the keeper will constantly be open to barrage as we can’t stop conceding goals and as for Muric he’s also in proven at premiership level and I don’t think he commands his area any better than Jimmy - but hey that’s just me.

    VK is going to have to accept that if you pile forward against good teams and create chances against them you are going to leave yourself open.

    Personally I think VK has to find the happy medium in between playing as we do gung ho style , and a really tight defensive unit.

    Watching Everton at City it was a Dyche masterclass in defending for long periods and it took me right back to his tenure here - 10 men behind the ball only step out if we have a corner - set piece etc but do everything possible to stop the crosses and runners beyond- something we just don’t do.

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