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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Terminology, mmmmmmmmmmm.
    ok, depends on the person and which country you are in I suppose.
    Me personally, anyone above a certain age, that interferes with a "child " under the age of consent is a peado.

    In Western societies, a diagnosis of a pedophilic disorder requires that the person be 16 years old or older and at least 5 years older than the child who is the object of the ***ual fantasies or activity.
    That's quoted definition from Wiki,

    Secondly, I am astonished at your description of a British schoolgirl, as though it was an excuse for the abuse they received. Many of those kids, were vulnerable from broken homes or in care. In fact, your description was borderline disgusting. No Muslim/ or other ethnicitys targetted, just white girls
    I can counter your example, with the reverse, of the men of mainly Pakistani rogin, whose country where it is illegal to have *** before marriage, though girls of 14 CAN BE MARRIED OFF. SO THEY COME HERE AND TREAT THE PLACE LIKE A SWEET SHOP.
    Not forgetting, their religion, actually endorses child marriage, where the Prophet thought a girl of 6 would make a nice wife. Though to be fair, he did wait until she was 9 before ***. Then you expect Muslim men to have a conscience with the UK age of consent?

    if your children or grand children, want to walk about in a mini skirt and tight top, they can. It is the UK and we have laws to protect them. Never say that to me again about mixed messages. Rape and abuse, with drink and drugs is disgusting.

    You mention Tomy Robinson and his henchmen. Exactly who have threatened/killed/ targeted with actual racial abuse? All of which are crimes. They may not be my cup of tea, but they have the right to criticse Islam an its ways, the above being a prime example.
    Call it divisive as much as you want, but silence of saying nothing, is divisive as well, As abuse and crimes carry on unabated.

    LOL, you simplify the Leicester week long riots, as a cricket match fall out? You compare it, to a domestic football match grudge,are you insane?
    Have you actually considered, that Muslims and Hindu's actually do HATE each other?
    They have history of hate going back a long way and now that they are no longer in India and Pakistan, that hate has simply vanished?

    I've news my friend. It hasn;t . I have seen it first hand in factories I have worked in/ visted. Where segregation is the only way round it.
    When India was partitioned, anywhere up to 2 million Hindu's/Sikhs/Muslims were slaughtered and butchered.

    Yet, come to Britian, we are all one big happy family, forget about it.
    I’ve never come across that definition of a *****phile, Tricky. I’ve always understood it to be, as the word suggests, a ***ual obsession with young (prepubescent) children, so we’ll have to differ there.

    Neither have I offered a ‘description of a British schoolgirl’ and I’ve made it clear that I am not defending or excusing the grooming gangs/ abusers. I’ve simply tried to provide a context and some degree of explanation, NOT justification.
    The girls I worked with, quite some time ago, were universally white and from poor backgrounds. They were undeniably victims but they weren’t entirely innocent and neither were their parents. As I say…that isn’t defending what happens but it is providing a context.

    IN MY EXPERIENCE, and having been a child protection coordinator I do have some, there is little to choose between the cultures as far as ***ual abuse is concerned. I have taken part in scores of meetings involving white children who have been abused by family members, usually parents, uncles or grandparents. Equally I have taken part in not quite so many meetings where organised ***ual abuse by Muslim groups has been the subject. Unfortunately the girls concerned in the second scenario were often (not always) complicit in activities which they initially thought of as a ‘laugh’ and a source of income. I’m sorry if that offends anyone’s sensibilities but it is my experience. It isn’t a defence but I’m not going to apologise for saying what I witnessed.

    As regards your comments about ‘mini skirts and tight tops’. You’re right of course…girls and women should be free to dress as they wish, however as a parent of a daughter and someone with four female granddaughters I fear that in the real world you are being a tad idealistic. Just as any responsible parent or grandparent would provide advice about where is safe, what time they should be in, what dangers they should look out for so we sometimes have to provide advice about behaviours including modes of dress. In an imperfect world what may be safe in some situations and company might be foolish and dangerous in others.

    Beyond that, the ***ualisation of children by the fashion industry and certain types of parent is something I find quite alarming. I don’t say that as any kind of prude, far from it, but I can see how that can be a source of cultural confusion. Again not an excuse for those of any creed or colour who seek to exploit children/young people.

    We won’t agree about TR and his ilk. I despise them, you support or at least sympathise with them. You asked for an example of another divisive group other than Muslims…I provided one…and I’ve never suggested that Britain is ‘one big happy family’ - again far from it but we used to live in a country that, sixty odd years ago, openly compared Black and Irish people to dogs and where, rather more recently, idiots threw bananas at black footballers. Thankfully we’ve moved on, although there might be many Muslims who wonder whether that actually is the case.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 03-03-2024 at 08:36 PM.

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