Making Mistakes vs Tactical Instruction

[Davy500]

You are quite right, there have been quite a few where recruitment have got it wrong.
Especially as I didn’t realise that we had signed Randall twice��

I think its all part of the plan to do everything as cheap as possible. I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs.
Whether this will work over 2 or 3 years remains to be seen , or whether they will eventually realise they will have to spend on better players and a better coach to get promotion- lets see what happens

[Davy500]

I think its all part of the plan to do everything as cheap as possible. I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs.
Whether this will work over 2 or 3 years remains to be seen , or whether they will eventually realise they will have to spend on better players and a better coach to get promotion- lets see what happens

But that being said the real financial benefits come from reaching the Championship not L1, to be honest the football payments from the EFl are about 1.5 million in L1 compared to £872,000n in L2, compared to the massive 10 Million in Championship, not sure about the breakdown of Premier league solidarity payments though
Also the sponsorship will be much higher in championship, and probably gate receipts too, but the difference from L1 to L2 iwill be higher but not significantly
This is probably the reason the owners will not spend big to reach L1

[Elite_Pie]

I think its all part of the plan to do everything as cheap as possible. I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs.

That plan might work eventually, and it's good that we're trying to become sustainable.

However, I can't help but notice that this season the three teams reported to have the biggest budgets have taken the three automatic places!

[Davy500]

That plan might work eventually, and it's good that we're trying to become sustainable.

However, I can't help but notice that this season the three teams reported to have the biggest budgets have taken the three automatic places!

Its allways been like that, if you refer to the website the price of football, it shows that the promoted teams in any division are usually the biggest spenders - its just the way football is
very occasionally a team gets promoted that hasnt spent a great deal , but it has usually been a team with the same manager and gradual improvement of players over several years or longer, even then they get to the next level they remain there- before eventually dropping back

[matt_magpie]

I think its all part of the plan to do everything as cheap as possible. I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs.
Whether this will work over 2 or 3 years remains to be seen , or whether they will eventually realise they will have to spend on better players and a better coach to get promotion- lets see what happens

Cheap as possible? So putting a new sound system in which would have cost a fortune, totally ripping up the pitch and putting in under soil heating and new drainage and plus the nest suggests they do things on the cheap?? No there not going to spend around 4-6 million on wages a year as others as it’s not sustainable, spending around 2-3 is probably soon going to be sustainable and that should be enough to get us in the play offs or higher with the right recruitment.

[Davy500]

Cheap as possible? So putting a new sound system in which would have cost a fortune, totally ripping up the pitch and putting in under soil heating and new drainage and plus the nest suggests they do things on the cheap?? No there not going to spend around 4-6 million on wages a year as others as it’s not sustainable, spending around 2-3 is probably soon going to be sustainable and that should be enough to get us in the play offs or higher with the right recruitment.

All very good improving the infra structure to championship level - but i think the money would be better spent on coaches or players to get to the championship first then impove the infra structure to that level
We know now the owners plan - mid table with the hope of playoffs. Will it work - as i said it remains to be seen- but i suspect eventually they will have too spend a bit more to get to L1, but we will see

[matt_magpie]

All very good improving the infra structure to championship level - but i think the money would be better spent on coaches or players to get to the championship first then impove the infra structure to that level
We know now the owners plan - mid table with the hope of playoffs. Will it work - as i said it remains to be seen- but i suspect eventually they will have too spend a bit more to get to L1, but we will see

When have they said that then?

You improve infrastructure straight away if you can. The sound system badly needed updating as it sounded terrible and now it’s definitely improved the match-day experience for most.
Sorting a deteriorating pitch is key to be able to play with a certain style, avoid loosing Saturday games to weather and it just looks better and again improves the matchday experience which with above should help keep the fans coming.

The nest should do all this and pay for itself with its own separate revenue.

You could instead spend straight away that approx 2m quid that year on wages to get promoted, doesn’t work, then players on 2 or 3 year contracts you’re then saddled with it.

It’s all a balancing act but gradually building and finessing a squad probably has more certainty and less cost.

[Davy500]

When have they said that then?

You improve infrastructure straight away if you can. The sound system badly needed updating as it sounded terrible and now it’s definitely improved the match-day experience for most.
Sorting a deteriorating pitch is key to be able to play with a certain style, avoid loosing Saturday games to weather and it just looks better and again improves the matchday experience which with above should help keep the fans coming.

The nest should do all this and pay for itself with its own separate revenue.

You could instead spend straight away that approx 2m quid that year on wages to get promoted, doesn’t work, then players on 2 or 3 year contracts you’re then saddled with it.

It’s all a balancing act but gradually building and finessing a squad probably has more certainty and less cost.

You said i never go if Nolan was in charge - we have not been any betterr 6 years l8er

[1955pie]

I think its all part of the plan to do everything as cheap as possible. I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs.
Whether this will work over 2 or 3 years remains to be seen , or whether they will eventually realise they will have to spend on better players and a better coach to get promotion- lets see what happens

I think you seem to have the right feel for the situation here Davy. Just enough to keep us interested and maybe it will work someday.
But as others have said they are putting in a lot of money elsewhere. Now on The Nest that I think it is a case of taking the opportunity whilst it is there. As for the pitch, they have stated that it could have waited but would have to be done eventually. So do we improve the surface so that better footballers can play on it or we make sure we have some better footballers in the first place?
Let’s see what happens with Baldwin. Renew his contract and as you say “ I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs. ”

[Could'vebeenacontender]

I think you seem to have the right feel for the situation here Davy. Just enough to keep us interested and maybe it will work someday.
But as others have said they are putting in a lot of money elsewhere. Now on The Nest that I think it is a case of taking the opportunity whilst it is there. As for the pitch, they have stated that it could have waited but would have to be done eventually. So do we improve the surface so that better footballers can play on it or we make sure we have some better footballers in the first place?
Let’s see what happens with Baldwin. Renew his contract and as you say “ I really believe the plan is mid table to higher with a chance of promotion via the play offs. ”

If Baldwin's contract is renewed the best players will want to leave, they're just not having him anymore
Look at their body language on the pitch when he lets them down week after week
They've had enough